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Post by clueless on Jun 3, 2013 19:29:19 GMT -6
Cheryl - tell her to stay on top of her meds. The pain from the gas they pump into you can be really bad if you get behind on your meds. I was thinking that may be the worse part. Thanks, I will tell her.
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Post by lindab220 on Jun 3, 2013 20:00:50 GMT -6
I am saddened by the silence on the genius that is Tim Minchin. Listening to him right now.... Great...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 20:15:36 GMT -6
I haven't watched the video yet, but I really like Tim Minchin! Well almost as much as Noel Fielding.
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Post by reddarin on Jun 3, 2013 21:24:06 GMT -6
Numbers and log for today.
Calories: 2,279
Fat: 190 Pro: 119 Car: 31
73/22/5
Breakfast: Coffee, CO, HWC. Lunch: Chicken, jalapeno, cabbage, broth [bacon grease, butter, bouillon]. Dinner: Chicken, pickles, tomato.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 21:56:43 GMT -6
I only ate 1 meal today because I was stressed over the stupid rent situation. I paid most but not all of it, and will let my roommate deal with any late fees. I'll feel less anxious once I know how much my paycheck will be when it gets deposited tomorrow.
I made more gluten free flatbreads, but only had 2 tbsp of chickpea flour left so it was mostly almond flour. They were crumblier this time, I think the chickpea flour makes a big difference with the texture. I was going to try adding flaxmeal but was all out.
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Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2013 4:38:57 GMT -6
Weigh in today was 152.4
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Post by myles on Jun 4, 2013 5:57:36 GMT -6
I went to one of the brazilian places that they grill meat and carve it at your table. It sucked but i ate a lot of meat. Also i ate carbs. Not a lot, but some potatos and a small piece of polenta. Then i was feeling upset at myself so i did the opposite of the right thing and bought an ice cream bar.
anyways, nothing i can do about it now, mistake made, back to reality...however.. down almost 1lb on the scale..im really confused, any ideas?
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Post by cpresson on Jun 4, 2013 6:28:09 GMT -6
134 this morning. At least I'm staying in the general area for now--not too big a bounce. The last 2 mornings have been such perfect run weather with temps in the upper 50's, lower 60's. I'm really feeling the urge to run (well, all of me except my knee, which is getting closer to feeling like that). I am doing some work on a stationary recumbent bike and that is helping a lot with range of motion and stiffness. A week from today, I get to officially start physical therapy, which will hopefully be shortened since I'm already working on strengthening the knee and surrounding muscles. But I can't wait to get back into half-marathon training
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 7:12:48 GMT -6
134 this morning. At least I'm staying in the general area for now--not too big a bounce. The last 2 mornings have been such perfect run weather with temps in the upper 50's, lower 60's. I'm really feeling the urge to run (well, all of me except my knee, which is getting closer to feeling like that). I am doing some work on a stationary recumbent bike and that is helping a lot with range of motion and stiffness. A week from today, I get to officially start physical therapy, which will hopefully be shortened since I'm already working on strengthening the knee and surrounding muscles. But I can't wait to get back into half-marathon training That's awesome Chapel! I'm so glad to hear your recovery is going smoothly, and you haven't had any major bounces Way to go!
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 7:13:57 GMT -6
Woohoo! On your way back down it looks like
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 7:15:49 GMT -6
I only ate 1 meal today because I was stressed over the stupid rent situation. I paid most but not all of it, and will let my roommate deal with any late fees. I'll feel less anxious once I know how much my paycheck will be when it gets deposited tomorrow. I made more gluten free flatbreads, but only had 2 tbsp of chickpea flour left so it was mostly almond flour. They were crumblier this time, I think the chickpea flour makes a big difference with the texture. I was going to try adding flaxmeal but was all out. Awwww I wonder if adding some extra oil of some sort to the ones with more almond flour would help? I bet the almond flour you have it really de-fatted or something... they really differ by a lot, so it seems like sometimes you have to compensate by adding more or less oil to the recipe. Hopefully they were still at least edible though!
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 7:17:50 GMT -6
I went to one of the brazilian places that they grill meat and carve it at your table. It sucked but i ate a lot of meat. Also i ate carbs. Not a lot, but some potatos and a small piece of polenta. Then i was feeling upset at myself so i did the opposite of the right thing and bought an ice cream bar. anyways, nothing i can do about it now, mistake made, back to reality...however.. down almost 1lb on the scale..im really confused, any ideas? Awww, well no ideas here but I know Darin sometimes goes way out there on his calories and expects a bounce and wakes up to see a loss... I think all of those things just go to show that you can't always make sense of what the scale says based on what you did the previous day Glad to see you didn't have a huge water bounce this morning though, and I'm glad you're not beating yourself up too much about it. Today's a new day, and Myles is going to conquer it!
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 7:27:48 GMT -6
Hmm... well, woke up to something strange today and I'm still not 100% sure how I feel about Natural Calm. Better than yesterday, that's for sure. Although I think it would have been hard for me to have an even MORE dissenting opinion at that point Weigh in this morning was 144.5 down from 146.5 yesterday. Really weird, but I'll take it even though I expect to bounce up a pound some time this week (actual TOM time). I think part of that might have been that I was retaining water like crazy yesterday from TOM and also from the terrible night's sleep I had (and the struggles with my AC being on the fritz, and my roommate failing to be a responsible adult again... which I just chose not to post about so I didn't dwell on it). But then yesterday midday all of a sudden my stomach became all kinds of messed up, and I think that straightened my water retention right out Sorry if that was TMI by the way I don't think it was from the Natural Calm or anything because that would have been MASSIVELY delayed (I drank that at around 10:30 the previous night, and my stomach felt off kilter in the afternoon yesterday) so maybe it was a combination of that and eating flax or something, which I'm not used to... anyway, I felt better by dinner time anyway so that was good Took 1.5T of Natural Calm last night which I guess works out to be somewhere around 800mg of magnesium citrate or something? I don't know, the recommended dose is 2 rounded teaspoons so when I start getting into rounded tablespoons that's just too much math work for me Was awake a little longer than I anticipated, and woke up shortly after midnight (YUCK) but after that I seemed okay... even went to bed early (around 10:30-11pm) as opposed to regular time, and was able to at least relax in bed and keep trying for more sleep until my pill alarm went off this morning. That was a good thing Moral of the story? I guess I'm giving magnesium and Natural Calm at least one more try before trying to determine whether or not it's a good thing for me to take at night. Last night was promising though, so I'm hoping the previous night's worsening insomnia was just a fluke. The waking up a couple hours after falling asleep thing probably has nothing to do with the Natural Calm I guess and everything to do with my adrenals... I'm probably just getting to the point where I'm just that sick, that I'm declining in health in places I don't necessarily correlate to that and instead I just keep trying to find other things to blame (the magnesium, the little tiny bit of caffeine in my fruitwater that I drank after 6pm the other day, etc.)
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Post by reddarin on Jun 4, 2013 7:49:30 GMT -6
I only ate 1 meal today because I was stressed over the stupid rent situation. I paid most but not all of it, and will let my roommate deal with any late fees. I'll feel less anxious once I know how much my paycheck will be when it gets deposited tomorrow. I made more gluten free flatbreads, but only had 2 tbsp of chickpea flour left so it was mostly almond flour. They were crumblier this time, I think the chickpea flour makes a big difference with the texture. I was going to try adding flaxmeal but was all out. Lisa Let the stress go. There's nothing you can do about anything until sometime later so worrying about it now is unworthy of your attention. What can you do today, even right now, that is good for Lisa? The best thing you can possibly do for yourself right now is to do something for someone else. Maybe you know someone that needs cheering up you could call and brighten their day by being their friend. Maybe you have a friend that doesn't get out of the house much that would love to go for a walk with you. Maybe your neighbor is sick and you could go tidy up their house for them or take them some soup. Maybe you know someone that is not able to get around well and you could take them to the store to shop.
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Post by gretalyn on Jun 4, 2013 7:51:51 GMT -6
I did great on my carb count yesterday. Not as great on my protein, but I'm not too worried about that. I'm not aware of any negative effects for me personally from going a bit over on protein. But then again, I don't have a blood ketone monitor either. Still, I'm counting the day as a whole as a success. Chapel, so glad to hear that your recovery is going well! Myles, I know exactly what you're talking about wrt "the opposite of the right thing". I know it's completely irrational, but when I've messed up on my diet a little, I always feel like "might as well mess up a lot". I suspect that the one-pound loss is just part of the normal fluctuations in water retention, etc. but who knows. Sometimes it seems there's little logic to these things. Bunniee
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Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2013 8:18:11 GMT -6
I only ate 1 meal today because I was stressed over the stupid rent situation. I paid most but not all of it, and will let my roommate deal with any late fees. I'll feel less anxious once I know how much my paycheck will be when it gets deposited tomorrow. I made more gluten free flatbreads, but only had 2 tbsp of chickpea flour left so it was mostly almond flour. They were crumblier this time, I think the chickpea flour makes a big difference with the texture. I was going to try adding flaxmeal but was all out. Lisa Let the stress go. There's nothing you can do about anything until sometime later so worrying about it now is unworthy of your attention. What can you do today, even right now, that is good for Lisa? The best thing you can possibly do for yourself right now is to do something for someone else. Maybe you know someone that needs cheering up you could call and brighten their day by being their friend. Maybe you have a friend that doesn't get out of the house much that would love to go for a walk with you. Maybe your neighbor is sick and you could go tidy up their house for them or take them some soup. Maybe you know someone that is not able to get around well and you could take them to the store to shop. Good advice. We did this one year at Christmas. Things were pretty bad and I had no money to buy Christmas for my kids. My x had wiped me out financially. The girls and I went thru our stuff and got some nice things to donate to the local women's shelter. Then we took it and visited with them. A week or so later the local Friends of Youth that I had gotten the kids signed up with showed up on my door step with over $200.00 worth of items they had bought for my girls and gave it to me to give to them as Christmas gifts. Then, a few days later I got a check in the mail from a medical Co that said I had over paid my DD's feeding tube formula over a year ago! $325.00 That was my Christmas Miracle!
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Post by gretalyn on Jun 4, 2013 8:20:07 GMT -6
Good advice. We did this one year at Christmas. Things were pretty bad and I had no money to buy Christmas for my kids. My x had wiped me out financially. The girls and I went thru our stuff and got some nice things to donate to the local women's shelter. Then we took it and visited with them. A week or so later the local Friends of Youth that I had gotten the kids signed up with showed up on my door step with over $200.00 worth of items they had bought for my girls and gave it to me to give to them as Christmas gifts. Then, a few days later I got a check in the mail from a medical Co that said I had over paid my DD's feeding tube formula over a year ago! $325.00 That was my Christmas Miracle! What an amazing story, Cheryl.
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Post by reddarin on Jun 4, 2013 8:45:25 GMT -6
I went to one of the brazilian places that they grill meat and carve it at your table. It sucked but i ate a lot of meat. Also i ate carbs. Not a lot, but some potatos and a small piece of polenta. Then i was feeling upset at myself so i did the opposite of the right thing and bought an ice cream bar. anyways, nothing i can do about it now, mistake made, back to reality...however.. down almost 1lb on the scale..im really confused, any ideas? Yes. Why did you eat the carbs? I mean, really ask yourself why you ate them. You could have eaten so much meat there was zero physical room for anything carby but you made the choice to eat off plan. Then you made a choice to eat an ice cream bar because you made the choice to eat the potatoes. But you say that you were moderate with the potatoes and polenta. So, the real question, for yourself not us, is why eat the carby stuff if it is going to make you feel guilty enough to eat more carby stuff? Or was the first choice an excuse for the second? Think about that for a minute. I know that I have eaten off plan before because what I really wanted to eat off plan was too horrible to contemplate. But! If I ate something more 'acceptable' to eat off plan then I could rationalize that I'd already eaten off plan so what the heck I'll just eat what ran through my mind before this chain of events. For me, for a true life example, it was queso and tortilla chips. I wanted them but I knew that they were beyond the pale. So I ate too many almonds. Well I blew it with the almonds and in for a penny in for a pound there was no reason not to have the queso and chips since I'd already blown it and I could beat myself up mentally for being a failure, eat the queso and not feel so bad about it. As for eating the ice cream or just eating off plan and strategies to surmount those situations it is worth knowing that there have been studies done that indicate that the ability to resist temptation is finite over a given time period. So if you have been expending a lot of effort on not doing things your ability to continue not doing things diminishes in all areas. That is why a stressful day at work can express itself in completely disparate situations. For example, you are typically a very polite driver. But after a hard stressful day at work you are Attila the Hun on the way home that evening showing no mercy to the unusual number of idiots surrounding you on the road. Even to yourself you'll think 'dang there are a lot of jerks on the road tonight'. But there are no more idiots that usual. Your usual magnanimity on the road has been used up by not strangling your boss or coworkers. So. What to do with that piece of information? Recognize that if you have used up a lot of your reservoir of 'not' the best thing to do is avoid situations where you need more 'not'. But just being aware of the process will provide you with a lot of protection.
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Post by reddarin on Jun 4, 2013 8:48:51 GMT -6
134 this morning. At least I'm staying in the general area for now--not too big a bounce. The last 2 mornings have been such perfect run weather with temps in the upper 50's, lower 60's. I'm really feeling the urge to run (well, all of me except my knee, which is getting closer to feeling like that). I am doing some work on a stationary recumbent bike and that is helping a lot with range of motion and stiffness. A week from today, I get to officially start physical therapy, which will hopefully be shortened since I'm already working on strengthening the knee and surrounding muscles. But I can't wait to get back into half-marathon training Actually Chapel, I'd say that is extraordinary rather than some sort of consolation. Most people put on a lot of weight after surgery so you are doing excellent in that area and excellent in your physical recover too.
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Post by myles on Jun 4, 2013 9:02:05 GMT -6
I went to one of the brazilian places that they grill meat and carve it at your table. It sucked but i ate a lot of meat. Also i ate carbs. Not a lot, but some potatos and a small piece of polenta. Then i was feeling upset at myself so i did the opposite of the right thing and bought an ice cream bar. anyways, nothing i can do about it now, mistake made, back to reality...however.. down almost 1lb on the scale..im really confused, any ideas? Yes. Why did you eat the carbs? I mean, really ask yourself why you ate them. You could have eaten so much meat there was zero physical room for anything carby but you made the choice to eat off plan. Then you made a choice to eat an ice cream bar because you made the choice to eat the potatoes. But you say that you were moderate with the potatoes and polenta. So, the real question, for yourself not us, is why eat the carby stuff if it is going to make you feel guilty enough to eat more carby stuff? Or was the first choice an excuse for the second? Think about that for a minute. I know that I have eaten off plan before because what I really wanted to eat off plan was too horrible to contemplate. But! If I ate something more 'acceptable' to eat off plan then I could rationalize that I'd already eaten off plan so what the heck I'll just eat what ran through my mind before this chain of events. For me, for a true life example, it was queso and tortilla chips. I wanted them but I knew that they were beyond the pale. So I ate too many almonds. Well I blew it with the almonds and in for a penny in for a pound there was no reason not to have the queso and chips since I'd already blown it and I could beat myself up mentally for being a failure, eat the queso and not feel so bad about it. As for eating the ice cream or just eating off plan and strategies to surmount those situations it is worth knowing that there have been studies done that indicate that the ability to resist temptation is finite over a given time period. So if you have been expending a lot of effort on not doing things your ability to continue not doing things diminishes in all areas. That is why a stressful day at work can express itself in completely disparate situations. For example, you are typically a very polite driver. But after a hard stressful day at work you are Attila the Hun on the way home that evening showing no mercy to the unusual number of idiots surrounding you on the road. Even to yourself you'll think 'dang there are a lot of jerks on the road tonight'. But there are no more idiots that usual. Your usual magnanimity on the road has been used up by not strangling your boss or coworkers. So. What to do with that piece of information? Recognize that if you have used up a lot of your reservoir of 'not' the best thing to do is avoid situations where you need more 'not'. But just being aware of the process will provide you with a lot of protection. I don't know WHY i really ate them. They were right in front of me and i really wanted them is all i can think of. The meat was coming slow.. one kind every few minutes, and i was hungry. When putting a potato into my mouth i wasn't thinking about how i would feel afterwards. I wasn't thinking anything except "mmm" I don't think the first choice was an excuse for the second because i hadn't even thought about the second until i was walking into my building and looked at the ice cream sign outside the convenience store. I don't even feel bad, but i think the reason i don't was because of the scale this morning, which is still puzzling. If i had gone up or water weight then i think i'd feel bad. Yes i should avoid those situations. I was out for dinner with a friend who i hadn't seen in several months. I don't have any low carb friends, but wish i did locally, that would be cool.
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Post by lindab220 on Jun 4, 2013 9:20:12 GMT -6
Morning, all, my day is going good today. I went shopping for supplies at the grocery store yesterday. Buying my weekly fix of liver, I thought, why not save time and pick up some fried chicken livers at the deli. They were really good but, you know, breading through me up a little on carbs. Hum. Stayed the same on the weight, but can't complain.
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Post by raindroproses on Jun 4, 2013 9:20:50 GMT -6
Same here Myles, I wish we didn't all live so spread out SO is pretty much doing low carb now (they cut out things like bread and rice and pasta, but still eat fruit and such sometimes) but they live in NYC and I hardly ever get to see them right now... roommate eats carby garbage all the time, so it's ALWAYS in the apartment and everyone else I know is just doing SAD or whatever. Or worse, they're vegetarian/vegan That being said, I don't have a lot of friends in real life anyway though. But it sure would be awesome to have some NK/LC friends!
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Post by myles on Jun 4, 2013 9:36:20 GMT -6
Same here Myles, I wish we didn't all live so spread out SO is pretty much doing low carb now (they cut out things like bread and rice and pasta, but still eat fruit and such sometimes) but they live in NYC and I hardly ever get to see them right now... roommate eats carby garbage all the time, so it's ALWAYS in the apartment and everyone else I know is just doing SAD or whatever. Or worse, they're vegetarian/vegan That being said, I don't have a lot of friends in real life anyway though. But it sure would be awesome to have some NK/LC friends! Same here Mel. Sho nuff. Edit: i forgot to mention that i had a beer with my dinner of oversalted crappy meat.
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Post by myles on Jun 4, 2013 9:45:12 GMT -6
Morning, all, my day is going good today. I went shopping for supplies at the grocery store yesterday. Buying my weekly fix of liver, I thought, why not save time and pick up some fried chicken livers at the deli. They were really good but, you know, breading through me up a little on carbs. Hum. Stayed the same on the weight, but can't complain. Wahoo!
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Post by myles on Jun 4, 2013 9:45:50 GMT -6
Cheryl i loved your story! Heart warming
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Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2013 10:00:09 GMT -6
Morning, all, my day is going good today. I went shopping for supplies at the grocery store yesterday. Buying my weekly fix of liver, I thought, why not save time and pick up some fried chicken livers at the deli. They were really good but, you know, breading through me up a little on carbs. Hum. Stayed the same on the weight, but can't complain. I bet those livers were good. I didn't really enjoy cooking them myself. My Mom makes Great chicken livers, Gluten free but not LC. By the way, she came thru surgery fine but I haven't gotten to talk to her yet. Thanks for the advice everyone.
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Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2013 10:02:32 GMT -6
Thanks Myles and Gretalyn, That was a pretty awesome thing. Still gives me goose bumps.
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Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2013 10:14:41 GMT -6
Myles, I used to do exactly what you did. As a matter of fact, when I was 240 lbs I started a diet almost every day. But by the time afternoon rolled around I would be starving and indulge in mindless eating. Really mindless, like I would just space out and eat. I had to do a lot of work on myself and my life to get past that type of over eating. I would celebrate by opening the fridge, I would handle sadness by opening cupboard. Happy, sad, stressed, bored, hungry, not hungry, anytime was a good time to eat. Oh well I messed up my diet today I may as well eat more. Or the worst was, I am gonna start a new diet tomorrow so I better eat this stuff tonight. And oh gosh, I had friends that ate till they would get sick. Every time we did things together revolved around food. When I stopped eating with them they quit calling me. Those people were not good for me to hang out with. But every time I stuck to my plan I got stronger. Every time I said no to a temptation I got stronger. You know that saying, Nothing taste as good as skinny feels. I would say stuff like that to myself. I stopped saying mean stuff to myself, and I stopped letting others say mean stuff to me. Don't let yourself get too hungry, plan ahead so you won't be starving. :dance:YOU CAN DO IT MYLES!!!!!!!!
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Post by reddarin on Jun 4, 2013 10:18:31 GMT -6
I don't know WHY i really ate them. Sure you do. You said it right here: But here is the point: You've got lots of experience with the capricious nature of the scale but you still get bummed out when it is contrary even if you know you were off plan and there is actually a reason for it to be contrary. Is that a new situation for you Myles? I mean, did you have a bunch of them that moved away suddenly? No? Then it isn't much of an excuse is it lol. *None* of us are encircled by real life LC pals. So the answer isn't to bemoan the fact after deciding to eat off plan. The answer is to not put yourself into a position where you are going to eat off plan because your family/friends are not LC. There are lots of ways you could have handled this situation differently. You could have stopped at a convenience store and ate four bunless hotdogs on your way to meet your friend so you wouldn't be so hungry while eating at a place that is not LC friendly with someone who is not LC. Or you could have steered the choice of where to eat to an LC friendly restaurant. Or you could have prepared a meal at home for the two of you like something with your fantastic grill. If you knew the meal was happening ahead of time you could have made sure to eat plenty of LC/NK stuff during the day. You guys didn't meet to eat you met to catch up and have a conversation with someone you hadn't seen in a long time. If it sounds like I am being tough on you I am. You fall down like this frequently Myles and you need some straight talk to stop doing that to yourself. You want to lose the weight and you agonize over every scale reading and your slow progress and then you torpedo yourself like clockwork. Sure everyone gets into an awkward situation once in a while. Life happens. But if it keeps happening then it is no longer Life happening but you happening. Almost all mainstream diets would have you starving yourself eating 1500 calories (and probably a lot less) of low fat crap to lose weight. NK mandates beef, chicken, fish, bacon, cheese, HWC, CO, LC veggies, etc, to satiation *and* not starving yourself. Anyway. Quit shooting yourself in the foot.
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