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Post by reddarin on May 16, 2013 10:50:55 GMT -6
Ok im here. Leaving for the airport, taking my laptop to portland, will report in from there! Safe travels Myles
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Post by RoBiN <3 on May 16, 2013 10:54:07 GMT -6
Kundalini Yoga - googling this now - I'm willing to try anything and have always been interested in yoga - we bought a beginners dvd but have yet to get it started. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 11:12:54 GMT -6
Ugh, I really HOPE it's not the steroids! I was on them for about a week and a half and didn't gain anything and actually lost a pound... so I really didn't think it was those. I figured I would have been stalled the whole time at the very least if it was from the meds, and possibly even seen gains. Instead I gained the typical amount for TOM and then managed to lose an extra pound afterward. It's just that I've gained the pound back now and ugh. I just don't want this to get out of control, because I can't afford to gain everything back. So I'm trying to figure something out that'll hopefully help... so far I hadn't had any issues from the steroids Hey, maybe you should take it easy for awhile! How tall are you and what is your frame size? Maybe your body has found a comfortable weight! Perhaps you need to settle for a bit and let your body adjust. You're at goal now, right? No, unfortunately not I'm now 5-10 pounds from goal, and believe me... I have a LOT of fat to lose. I'm 5'6"ish and 150 pounds right now. My end goal is 140-145, but I'd planned on adding in Callanetics once I got to that level which means I'd have to keep putting off fat to replace it with muscle and maintain that weight. I don't think it's a comfortable weight issue at all because I haven't stalled... I've started gaining again and that scares the crap out of me. I can't really afford to relax too much because if I do and can't catch what's causing it, I'm just going to gain it all back. That was my problem before, becoming complacent and letting bad things happen to me. I'm just getting really frustrated the past two days, but the bad part of it is there's just no way for me to understand WHAT'S going on. Because it COULD be the steroids even though I was fine for almost two weeks. It COULD be the protein creep, and I'm eating too much protein. It COULD be bromide detox related. It COULD be my hypo is getting worse from being on such a small dose of Armour. I swear I'm about to rip my own hair out lately
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Post by clueless on May 16, 2013 11:19:17 GMT -6
Kundalini Yoga - googling this now - I'm willing to try anything and have always been interested in yoga - we bought a beginners dvd but have yet to get it started. Thanks for the suggestion! Kundalini is different than regular yoga. The exercises work on specific systems in the body. The ones I use tell you how each exercise works on your thyroid, or digestive system or glandular system. That keeps me motivated to do them. The lady in the video makes crazy weird faces and doesn't wear a bra. At first I laughed more than I exercised. But, after I tried a few and felt the difference it made I never even paid anymore attention to her. Most the time you close your eyes anyway. Sat nam forever. lol
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Post by clueless on May 16, 2013 11:26:00 GMT -6
Can I just say... Dang I love this new Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 11:49:15 GMT -6
So, I went for a 4 mile walk today to keep my legs loose after leg day a few days ago and a run yesterday. Listened to a Jimmy Moore podcast. Hate to say it, I was SO TURNED OFF BY HIM. He kept disrespecting himself and referring to himself as an "unequal swine" throughout the whole podcast! Especially when referencing Phinney & Volek.. "Well, they are the scientists, this is just my experiment as an unequal swine." I get the reverential treatment of them, as they are leaders in the field, but seriously? Then I came home and Googled him... and realized he was saying "n=1"...and now I'm gonna go crawl under a rock for the rest of the day. I just snorted my lunch out my nose when I read this! Nobody in the office knows why I'm laughing like a hyena and It's too hard to explain!
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 11:53:57 GMT -6
Kundalini Yoga - googling this now - I'm willing to try anything and have always been interested in yoga - we bought a beginners dvd but have yet to get it started. Thanks for the suggestion! Kundalini is different than regular yoga. The exercises work on specific systems in the body. The ones I use tell you how each exercise works on your thyroid, or digestive system or glandular system. That keeps me motivated to do them. The lady in the video makes crazy weird faces and doesn't wear a bra. At first I laughed more than I exercised. But, after I tried a few and felt the difference it made I never even paid anymore attention to her. Most the time you close your eyes anyway. Sat nam forever. lol I'm going to have to give Kundalini a shot! I know someone had recommended yoga to me already for my adrenal issues, but I'd looked into Kundalini in the past because of the specific targeted exercises it provides. I know low impact is really what's best for adrenal fatigue patients, so I know yoga would be safe for me... Callanetics I'm unsure of, so as of yet I've yet to try Do you use a DVD, or Youtube videos for it? I'll have to look into getting a decent DVD or something maybe
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Post by clueless on May 16, 2013 12:09:14 GMT -6
Kundalini is different than regular yoga. The exercises work on specific systems in the body. The ones I use tell you how each exercise works on your thyroid, or digestive system or glandular system. That keeps me motivated to do them. The lady in the video makes crazy weird faces and doesn't wear a bra. At first I laughed more than I exercised. But, after I tried a few and felt the difference it made I never even paid anymore attention to her. Most the time you close your eyes anyway. Sat nam forever. lol I'm going to have to give Kundalini a shot! I know someone had recommended yoga to me already for my adrenal issues, but I'd looked into Kundalini in the past because of the specific targeted exercises it provides. I know low impact is really what's best for adrenal fatigue patients, so I know yoga would be safe for me... Callanetics I'm unsure of, so as of yet I've yet to try Do you use a DVD, or Youtube videos for it? I'll have to look into getting a decent DVD or something maybe www.amazon.com/Fat-Free-Yoga-Weight-MATRIX/dp/B000AY6JVK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368727451&sr=8-1&keywords=fat+free+yogaThis is the one that got me started. The reviews sucked me in. It works too. But Yoga quick fixes and Dr. Yoga House Calls are my favorites, right now. I didn't really like the beginners and beyond video. It is mostly the Tibetan rites. You can find those on youtube. I also goggled some to start with, before I was ready to buy an actual DVD.
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 12:15:55 GMT -6
Have you tried cutting the protein shakes at all? I'd suggest that first, they always do wonky things to my weight. Well, it's strange... because up until this week I was doing REALLY well with having one of those for dinner every day. I make my own, and I use casein protein powder. I was thinking it was helping me sleep and helping the steroids NOT chew up my muscle protein while I slept essentially, but I guess I'll be inadvertently cutting them out while fasting ) The one day recently I had an actual lunch and dinner, I bounced the next day. Of course it was also TOM so that's just really hard to figure out anyhow. But the two days following that I had a casein shake for dinner, and I lost my pound of water weight from TOM as well as a half pound extra each day. So I was down 1 pound from my start weight of using the steroids. Now I bounced back up that pound I lost, 1/2 pound each day the past two days. So I really don't know what's going on there I'm not sure if you were drinking homemade shakes, or pre-mixed? But my shakes are: 1 scoop of casein protein powder, 1.5 cups of unsweetened almond milk, 1 whole egg, 1 egg yolk, 2T of HWC, 2T of MCT oil, a little SF Torani, and some ice pretty much. For a total of 591 calories, 7 carbs, 53g fat, 35g protein. So it's been my dinner replacer pretty much, lol. I know yesterday my problem was likely that I allowed myself 80g of protein when I was only eating in the 60's before and upped it to the low to mid 70's because of the steroids... but the day before, I honestly don't know what happened. I did everything by the books, so I'm starting to get concerned with all the meds I'm popping. I'm pretty sure the casein helps rebuild muscle during sleep. Maybe you have a muscle loss that you weren't aware of and the casein before bed is rebuilding the muscle? casein before bed
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 12:21:25 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure the casein helps rebuild muscle during sleep. Maybe you have a muscle loss that you weren't aware of and the casein before bed is rebuilding the muscle? casein before bedThat was my understanding too, or at the very least it works slowly to rebuild muscle whenever you use it versus whey which is absorbed very quickly and all at once pretty much. The only thing is... I seemed to be losing well WHILE drinking the shakes, and now suddenly I'm just gaining 1/2 pound a day. So I'm trying to figure out what's been going on with that
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 12:24:16 GMT -6
Very cool, thank you! Interestingly enough my dad wanted to get into yoga a while back... I almost wonder if he'd do it with me if I was ever in town long enough again for him to benefit from it. He'd probably get into the beginner DVD because he's really into Tibetan rites and things like that I'm just hoping something works, because I know they recommend really mild exercise for adrenal fatigue if any and I hear yoga (and also from a non-exercise level, meditation) is really supposed to help those with hypoadrenia issues.
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Post by amanda on May 16, 2013 12:24:30 GMT -6
Melanie -- you need a good body conditioning or strength training program. I've heard of many that can't lose the last 5-10 lbs - the start strength training and it comes off. But more importantly - they feel better, both physically and body image wise.
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 12:26:44 GMT -6
Melanie -- you need a good body conditioning or strength training program. I've heard of many that can't lose the last 5-10 lbs - the start strength training and it comes off. But more importantly - they feel better, both physically and body image wise. I'm starting to think that might be the case here too Amanda... I think Callanetics will work really well for that, because I know it's supposed to be pretty low impact and it's helped a LOT of people out. I'm just wondering HOW low impact it is, because I can actually do myself more harm than good by overdoing things right now while I'm struggling with my adrenal issues I guess. Maybe I should pop in the DVD and give it a look, without doing any of the exercises. I suppose it can't hurt just reviewing it. I bet yoga would be a good addition too
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 12:39:11 GMT -6
Oh Melanie, I bet its just those dang steroids! Keep doing what you're doing, its not the shakes! Ugh, I really HOPE it's not the steroids! I was on them for about a week and a half and didn't gain anything and actually lost a pound... so I really didn't think it was those. I figured I would have been stalled the whole time at the very least if it was from the meds, and possibly even seen gains. Instead I gained the typical amount for TOM and then managed to lose an extra pound afterward. It's just that I've gained the pound back now and ugh. I just don't want this to get out of control, because I can't afford to gain everything back. So I'm trying to figure something out that'll hopefully help... so far I hadn't had any issues from the steroids sometimes there's a lagtime between taking something and seeing/noticing the effects. Some of my supplements tell me that it could be a week or more like several weeks to months before results are noticable. Maybe there's a lag with the steroids too...
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 12:41:58 GMT -6
Ugh, I really HOPE it's not the steroids! I was on them for about a week and a half and didn't gain anything and actually lost a pound... so I really didn't think it was those. I figured I would have been stalled the whole time at the very least if it was from the meds, and possibly even seen gains. Instead I gained the typical amount for TOM and then managed to lose an extra pound afterward. It's just that I've gained the pound back now and ugh. I just don't want this to get out of control, because I can't afford to gain everything back. So I'm trying to figure something out that'll hopefully help... so far I hadn't had any issues from the steroids sometimes there's a lagtime between taking something and seeing/noticing the effects. Some of my supplements tell me that it could be a week or more like several weeks to months before results are noticable. Maybe there's a lag with the steroids too... True, I'm just really hoping that isn't the case here. I figured if you were going to see a NEGATIVE effect of something, it'd be more instant/quicker than that... positive effects usually don't come until later, but oftentimes it seems people experience the negatives straight away. So I figured when I actually started LOSING this week while on the steroids I was going to be alright. I really don't know... there's too much going on body-wise right now to even understand what's going on fully and it's driving me nuts. The only thing I can do is hopefully try something new and hope it gets me on the right track again. I can't even talk to my doc until the 28th because he's out with eye surgery, so I'm screwed with the same meds whether I like it or not
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 12:47:18 GMT -6
Well, I'm trying a calcium bentonite detox bath right now... just tried salt pushing too, which I'm scared is going to cause me to balloon up thanks to my wonderful reaction to sodium but I'm trying to rule out bromide detox symptoms before freaking out about the steroids very much. I'm hoping the salt pushing won't show an effect due to the fact that I'd already have been around 500mg of sodium today anyway, and with it I should be closer to normal level. I also used pink himalayan salt as opposed to table salt because it was recommended. I guess I should have been doing this all along while taking iodine to push the bromide out of my system... I had no idea, but I can't really say the weight gain is due to that for sure. With my luck, probably not. But at least I may detox quicker? I think if I see a gain tomorrow on the FF I'll attribute it to the salt pushing and give it another shot without it... and if it fails then, I guess I'll give it up and assume it's not for me. I'm also not experiencing any hunger whatsoever yet, so that's good. I'm due for another meal in less than 1.5 hours so it looks like I'll at least survive without FEELING like I'm really fasting. Really, I feel like I'm giving myself a much needed break in the kitchen )
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 12:53:52 GMT -6
Hmmm. Get out the pitchforks and torches... I'd be surprised if a FF cures bouncing. Even if it did seem to fix that problem temporarily there are too many variables involved to conclude that the FF itself was the causative factor. I actually think the value of FF is mostly of a mental nature. It is a concrete way to physically recommit to an LC woe and reset any carb creep that has happened. But as far as fixing metabolic issues, it seems very unlikely for that to be the case. The very low protein aspect is an issue to me but it is usually a very short term plan so there isn't much of a downside - go for it Awww no pitchforks and torches I'd be surprised if it helps too at this point, and I'm actually scared it'll do the OPPOSITE. But I just feel like maybe it's time to shake things up a little, and you're right... to me it IS at least a boost mentally even if I don't necessarily see a loss from it. It certainly won't be if I see GAINS from it, but still ) For me, I don't really think it was carb creep since I'm always so low in the first place. I'm guessing it was either too much dairy consistently with those shakes, or more likely protein creep... because I'd upped my protein this past week to a week and a half, and yesterday I ate 80g. That's a HUGE no-no for me, LOL! Very short term though, yeah... I'm hoping I see something at least, although I'm learning I may also be experiencing bromide detox symptoms from taking iodine and that might be causing some weight gain too. Ugh! Hard to figure out, honestly. But if I go for the meat/egg fast after the FF to give that a shot, I'll at least be back up on protein. So hopefully that'd eliminate/minimize any damage from the super low day or two. OOps just noticed you posted about salt loading too, but anyway it's a great protocol for bromide detox Salt loading protocol for bromide detoxing I've used it pretty often for the last year and have noticed very cloudy urine(TMI) which means the bromides are being excreted. I know you are very sensitive to salt but its interesting info all the same and you may feel like trying it someday.
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 13:00:40 GMT -6
Deb, you take iodine as well? I had no idea! It's strange because a lot of people on the thyroid group I posted to said that you CAN get weight gain as a side effect of bromide toxicity and your body trying to rid itself of the excess... but other than that I haven't had any other bizarre things going on from the iodine. Except maybe a metallic taste when drinking unfiltered water (which I try NOT to do now) but I thought I was just detecting the metals in the tap water since it goes away with filtered water and I don't walk around tasting metal all day. I did try the salt pushing, and I'm really scared about it. I only started with 1/4tsp once because I am so sensitive to it... but I'm hoping to maybe see SOME improvement from it! I'm also trying the calcium bentonite bath because supposedly it helps you detox. Not specifically from bromide, and I'm not sure if it'll help that or not. But I figure it can't ever hurt to take a detox bath now and again and sweat some impurities out! I just realized that bromide is one of the nasty things stored in our fat cells, so this whole time I've been burning off fat it's probably been coursing through my system more and more without me even realizing it. Here I thought it was just estrogen that did that
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 13:04:15 GMT -6
OOps just noticed you posted about salt loading too, but anyway it's a great protocol for bromide detox Salt loading protocol for bromide detoxing I've used it pretty often for the last year and have noticed very cloudy urine(TMI) which means the bromides are being excreted. I know you are very sensitive to salt but its interesting info all the same and you may feel like trying it someday. I'm also going to try pulse dosing, and stopping my iodine for 2 days in between 5 day spurts of taking it. That may help matters too, I just assumed if I was experiencing toxicity of some sort it'd be REALLY apparent... like those who get migraines from it, or cherry angiomas, or things of that nature. I guess things can be rather subtle too and can frequently go unnoticed. The things you learn
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 13:12:52 GMT -6
I got the cherry angiomas...thankfully they seem to have slowed down in their appearance.
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Post by cg037 on May 16, 2013 13:14:42 GMT -6
Melanie -- you need a good body conditioning or strength training program. I've heard of many that can't lose the last 5-10 lbs - the start strength training and it comes off. But more importantly - they feel better, both physically and body image wise. I'm starting to think that might be the case here too Amanda... I think Callanetics will work really well for that, because I know it's supposed to be pretty low impact and it's helped a LOT of people out. I'm just wondering HOW low impact it is, because I can actually do myself more harm than good by overdoing things right now while I'm struggling with my adrenal issues I guess. Maybe I should pop in the DVD and give it a look, without doing any of the exercises. I suppose it can't hurt just reviewing it. I bet yoga would be a good addition too New Rules of Lifting for Women! FOR LIFE. Sorry, when I find something I like, I become a rabid raccoon in terms of fangirling.
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 13:26:58 GMT -6
Deb, you take iodine as well? I had no idea! It's strange because a lot of people on the thyroid group I posted to said that you CAN get weight gain as a side effect of bromide toxicity and your body trying to rid itself of the excess... but other than that I haven't had any other bizarre things going on from the iodine. Except maybe a metallic taste when drinking unfiltered water (which I try NOT to do now) but I thought I was just detecting the metals in the tap water since it goes away with filtered water and I don't walk around tasting metal all day. I did try the salt pushing, and I'm really scared about it. I only started with 1/4tsp once because I am so sensitive to it... but I'm hoping to maybe see SOME improvement from it! I'm also trying the calcium bentonite bath because supposedly it helps you detox. Not specifically from bromide, and I'm not sure if it'll help that or not. But I figure it can't ever hurt to take a detox bath now and again and sweat some impurities out! I just realized that bromide is one of the nasty things stored in our fat cells, so this whole time I've been burning off fat it's probably been coursing through my system more and more without me even realizing it. Here I thought it was just estrogen that did that Rdr, I take the Iodoral tablets. I started them last November because I was becoming very ill from Ovarian/Adrenal/Thyroid issues all at once. I did some reading and noticed that the iodine and salt(along with pregnenolone to support my ovarian/sex hormone profile) could be used to detox bromide and the salt could reduce my high nightime cortisol so I started doing the iodine and the salt together. I did it very heavily(2 tsp) per day divided right up til the end of March beginning of April and then started to taper off the salt so much and while doing the iodine and salt, I noticed that I started to feel much better in a 3 respects. I do several supplements(no drugs)that have helped me a lot over the last year. It has taken that long to feel relatively normal, I have learned to not expect quick results. I think it will take me at least another year to get even better so I'm in it for the long haul. I use small dose of pregnenolone and Iodoral and dont' want to stress my system by pushing too hard with them. Doing NK and Leptin RX together is working to peel off a little weight. Only 11.5 pounds since January but people tell me I look like I've lost 25 or more. I'm glad that's so because I just have to keep going with this, to be healthier, this is the best thing I have done in all my adult life, nothing else has helped me like these various things I'm doing now. Stick with it and you will eventually be rewarded. I'm liking the fat loss as a side effect of getting healthier. It actually isn't really my main focus, I just want to feel human instead of half-dead and brainless most of the time. BTW, I'm also detoxing estrogen dominance with a supplement called Calcium d-glucorate 1500 mg along with Milk thistle for liver estrogen detox support. I'm pretty sure it's helping me shrink a bit even tho the scale is turtling on me. here's a link to what I'm taking along with just standard Milk Thistle caps for detoxing the estrogen released from fat cells through NK and Leptin RX. AOR Cellular Detox I'm adding the caution for this product especially noted for those using corticosteroids.
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 13:27:40 GMT -6
I'm starting to think that might be the case here too Amanda... I think Callanetics will work really well for that, because I know it's supposed to be pretty low impact and it's helped a LOT of people out. I'm just wondering HOW low impact it is, because I can actually do myself more harm than good by overdoing things right now while I'm struggling with my adrenal issues I guess. Maybe I should pop in the DVD and give it a look, without doing any of the exercises. I suppose it can't hurt just reviewing it. I bet yoga would be a good addition too New Rules of Lifting for Women! FOR LIFE. Sorry, when I find something I like, I become a rabid raccoon in terms of fangirling. Haha no lifting for me with my current issues I'm afraid... too stressful on the adrenals, and I don't even think I could lift much of anything consistently right now if I tried. Sometimes it's just a chore lifting myself up the stairs Sounds like something I might be able to check out though once my adrenals are on the mend and I'm not so darn sick all the time... although I have to admit, when I used to go to the gym I HATED lifting. HATED IT I could sometimes convince myself to use my resistance bands around the apartment, but other than that I think my thyroid has just kind of kept me in weakling status lately. Seriously, when I visited SO in New York last year, I couldn't even carry a suitcase up a flight of stairs without thinking I was going to die. It was awful. That was before I got diagnosed though, so it at least makes sense to me now even if it does suck )
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 13:34:59 GMT -6
Rdr, I take the Iodoral tablets. I started them last November because I was becoming very ill from Ovarian/Adrenal/Thyroid issues all at once. I did some reading and noticed that the iodine and salt(along with pregnenolone to support my ovarian/sex hormone profile) could be used to detox bromide and the salt could reduce my high nightime cortisol so I started doing the iodine and the salt together. I did it very heavily(2 tsp) per day divided right up til the end of March beginning of April and then started to taper off the salt so much and while doing the iodine and salt, I noticed that I started to feel much better in a 3 respects. I do several supplements(no drugs)that have helped me a lot over the last year. It has taken that long to feel relatively normal, I have learned to not expect quick results. I think it will take me at least another year to get even better so I'm in it for the long haul. I use small dose of pregnenolone and Iodoral and dont' want to stress my system by pushing too hard with them. Doing NK and Leptin RX together is working to peel off a little weight. Only 11.5 pounds since January but people tell me I look like I've lost 25 or more. I'm glad that's so because I just have to keep going with this, to be healthier, this is the best thing I have done in all my adult life, nothing else has helped me like these various things I'm doing now. Stick with it and you will eventually be rewarded. I'm liking the fat loss as a side effect of getting healthier. It actually isn't really my main focus, I just want to feel human instead of half-dead and brainless most of the time. Wow, we have a lot of the same things going on it sounds like! It's really encouraging to hear that you're doing so much better... I was worried I was supposed to be seeing an effect fairly quickly, so when I saw no real positives and all of a sudden the weight gain, I started to get really discouraged. I'm also on Iodoral tablets (I take 25mg daily myself, because that's what the doc put me on) and I also have ovarian/adrenal/thyroid issues all that same time. What a pain that is, I know what you mean about wanting to feel HUMAN again and not brainless and half-dead... believe me, when I visited with SO last year before I was diagnosed with the adrenal/thyroid issues I felt like such a failure because I couldn't even carry my suitcase up the stairs or stay awake while we watched TV sometimes Doc also has me on Pregnenalone (50mg daily) along with a slew of other stuff. Armour for my thyroid (although WAY too little right now, which is frustrating me!), DHEA 25mg, Drenatrophin which I take 2 tablets of every time I take my HC... and hydrocortisone of course. That's in addition to my usual multi, my magnesium, my potassium, and my hawthorn. I'm also thinking of bumping up my Vitamin C because I hear it's important for bromide detox as well, and I KNOW I'm deficient in Vitamin D and likely B12 as well... I'm just waiting on my lab work to do anything about it so I know for sure what I should be taking. I already feel like a walking pill box though It seems like we're sisters of sorts in this battle though, and I'm so glad you told me about your story. I had no idea, and I hope things continue to get better for you as well! NK has certainly helped me to put off a bit of weight and definitely feel healthier... but I know it's going to be a long battle to really heal the body, and it won't happen overnight with all the craziness going on medically.
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 13:44:09 GMT -6
Rdr, I take the Iodoral tablets. I started them last November because I was becoming very ill from Ovarian/Adrenal/Thyroid issues all at once. I did some reading and noticed that the iodine and salt(along with pregnenolone to support my ovarian/sex hormone profile) could be used to detox bromide and the salt could reduce my high nightime cortisol so I started doing the iodine and the salt together. I did it very heavily(2 tsp) per day divided right up til the end of March beginning of April and then started to taper off the salt so much and while doing the iodine and salt, I noticed that I started to feel much better in a 3 respects. I do several supplements(no drugs)that have helped me a lot over the last year. It has taken that long to feel relatively normal, I have learned to not expect quick results. I think it will take me at least another year to get even better so I'm in it for the long haul. I use small dose of pregnenolone and Iodoral and dont' want to stress my system by pushing too hard with them. Doing NK and Leptin RX together is working to peel off a little weight. Only 11.5 pounds since January but people tell me I look like I've lost 25 or more. I'm glad that's so because I just have to keep going with this, to be healthier, this is the best thing I have done in all my adult life, nothing else has helped me like these various things I'm doing now. Stick with it and you will eventually be rewarded. I'm liking the fat loss as a side effect of getting healthier. It actually isn't really my main focus, I just want to feel human instead of half-dead and brainless most of the time. Wow, we have a lot of the same things going on it sounds like! It's really encouraging to hear that you're doing so much better... I was worried I was supposed to be seeing an effect fairly quickly, so when I saw no real positives and all of a sudden the weight gain, I started to get really discouraged. I'm also on Iodoral tablets (I take 25mg daily myself, because that's what the doc put me on) and I also have ovarian/adrenal/thyroid issues all that same time. What a pain that is, I know what you mean about wanting to feel HUMAN again and not brainless and half-dead... believe me, when I visited with SO last year before I was diagnosed with the adrenal/thyroid issues I felt like such a failure because I couldn't even carry my suitcase up the stairs or stay awake while we watched TV sometimes Doc also has me on Pregnenalone (50mg daily) along with a slew of other stuff. Armour for my thyroid (although WAY too little right now, which is frustrating me!), DHEA 25mg, Drenatrophin which I take 2 tablets of every time I take my HC... and hydrocortisone of course. That's in addition to my usual multi, my magnesium, my potassium, and my hawthorn. I'm also thinking of bumping up my Vitamin C because I hear it's important for bromide detox as well, and I KNOW I'm deficient in Vitamin D and likely B12 as well... I'm just waiting on my lab work to do anything about it so I know for sure what I should be taking. I already feel like a walking pill box though It seems like we're sisters of sorts in this battle though, and I'm so glad you told me about your story. I had no idea, and I hope things continue to get better for you as well! NK has certainly helped me to put off a bit of weight and definitely feel healthier... but I know it's going to be a long battle to really heal the body, and it won't happen overnight with all the craziness going on medically. yes, it's nice to have at least one person understand that you can look normal to other people but feel SOOO bad that you could just lay down on the sidewalk and sleep forever. No energy, no interest in anything other than making it home alive at the end of the day. Sometimes it would be easier to have a visible manifestation of how bad I feel because there would be fewer expectations from others to have the strength to do things. When you look normal, everyone expects you to feel normal and to carry on the same loads of responsibilities that they think you should.
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Post by raindroproses on May 16, 2013 13:57:01 GMT -6
yes, it's nice to have at least one person understand that you can look normal to other people but feel SOOO bad that you could just lay down on the sidewalk and sleep forever. No energy, no interest in anything other than making it home alive at the end of the day. Sometimes it would be easier to have a visible manifestation of how bad I feel because there would be fewer expectations from others to have the strength to do things. When you look normal, everyone expects you to feel normal and to carry on the same loads of responsibilities that they think you should. Exactly! It's the, "Well you look fine to me! You don't look sick!" mentality that most people unfortunately seem to have. Growing up I was always told that I was just lazy, or I wasn't applying myself like I actually wanted to lay around all day feeling like crap. I was taken to therapy, put on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds, they told me I was bi-polar, etc. The good thing is, SO actually understands and is supportive of me. My roommate on the other hand, lays a butt load of responsibility on me on a regular basis that should be HIS to deal with and I'm left pretty much either doing whatever it is he wants or stressing myself out further by having to beat it into his head AGAIN that I'm sick and there's a reason I can't do whatever inane task he's wanting me to do now so he doesn't have to. What I really hate is that I'm stuck living where I am right now because I'm completely unable to work. Period. I've never been able to hold down a job for even a year any place I've ever tried to, because eventually I just get to the point of severe exhaustion to where I'd have to call in sick... and after so many times of that, ESPECIALLY pre-diagnosis to where there WAS no doctor's note about it... jobs just drop you. Anymore I'm a writer and a freelance artist, but I haven't been able to write or create these past however many months at all. All I've been able to devote energy to really has been my health, and my diet. I was stashing money away any time I got paid for a job so I can eventually escape and move closer to SO, but lately... there's just nothing coming in. And of course I can't collect disability even though I'm legitimately disabled and unable to work thanks to my conditions, so the vicious cycle continues. It is nice to have someone else who understands it all, despite the fact that it's terrible we're both suffering through it. It just gives me hope to know that it DOES take a long time, but it DOES get better. I was starting to lose hope when I started popping all of these supplements and it wasn't like some sort of day and night effect I was experiencing
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Post by deb34 on May 16, 2013 14:04:20 GMT -6
frankly, even tho the supplements are very expensive for me, i consider them an investment in my future. I'm single and will have no one to care for me when I'm older and sicker. I'm already the designated caregiver for when my parents get to the point where they need more one on one care, so I need to be as healthy as possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 14:47:22 GMT -6
I made myself go back and log everything I ate yesterday, and it added up to 1700 calories. Not quite as much as I thought. It just felt like I ate a huge amount of food, because I ate 2 meals and 2 snacks. Most of the time I only eat 2 meals a day.
My temp agency set up a job interview for me tomorrow. I'm crossing my fingers in hope that it works out, but it sounds like I'll be a good match. Being on NK is really stretching my grocery budget, and I need to find work soon if I want to continue.
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Post by cg037 on May 16, 2013 15:29:13 GMT -6
I made myself go back and log everything I ate yesterday, and it added up to 1700 calories. Not quite as much as I thought. It just felt like I ate a huge amount of food, because I ate 2 meals and 2 snacks. Most of the time I only eat 2 meals a day. My temp agency set up a job interview for me tomorrow. I'm crossing my fingers in hope that it works out, but it sounds like I'll be a good match. Being on NK is really stretching my grocery budget, and I need to find work soon if I want to continue. Good luck!
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Post by cg037 on May 16, 2013 16:27:34 GMT -6
Today:
Weighed 133 this morning, down 1 pound from yesterday. Meh. TOM started today, so who knows what to think right now. Walked about 4 miles to shake out my legs, did 100 kettlebell swings (60@20#, 40@30#)... I like being active and I don't care if it slows down my weight loss.
Fat fast day 2: Meal 1: Coffee w/ 1T HWC *insert 4 mile walk here* Meal 2: Chicken Bouillon w/ 3T HWC Meal 3: 2 oz cream cheese Meal 4: 1 oz macadamia nuts Meal 5: 1T coconut oil *insert psychotic energy burst and KB swings here* Meal 6: 2 oz cream cheese
915 calories 95g fat/91% 9g carbs/4% 12g protein/5%
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