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Post by perfectdeb on Jul 16, 2013 19:00:12 GMT -6
i bought the MCT oil at a bodybuilding supply shop - i had to really search around for it and most health food stores didnt even know what i was asking for I'm surprised that the health food stores didn't know about it. It has been popular for years. I bet they all had a display of raspberry ketones though actually yeah! what the hell is that?
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Post by reddarin on Jul 16, 2013 21:47:51 GMT -6
lol
Some new miracle pill to lose weight. I guess with the three big LC books coming out in the last few years 'ketone' has become a buzzword.
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Post by cpresson on Jul 17, 2013 5:47:36 GMT -6
Leg-focused weight training this morning for 30 min after a 5 min bike warmup. I follow the program from the book "The Body Sculpting Bible for Women" for my weight training. This week I added 2.5 more pounds to my adjustable dumbbells. Mondays are typically more arm-focused, Wednesdays are more leg-focused, and Fridays are a good mix of the two. I have a 30 min PT session this afternoon with another PT (not my normal one), followed by a 3-4 mile run with my running club.
My knee hurts more today than it has hurt in a while, so I'm taking an NSAID to help bring swelling down and ease the pain. I'll be glad when my knee is 90-100% like the doctor wants it.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 17, 2013 9:21:57 GMT -6
cpressonHow long have you been using the program in that book Chapel? Does the book get your endorsement? Which nsaid are you taking? Ibuprofen or naproxen? I used to take ibuprofen if I didn't take aspirin for pain but I was really impressed with naproxen's pain relief. I did sort of a round robin of the three depending on the pain level and type. If it was general I'd go with aspirin. If it was specific, like the knee I hurt in the army, I'd take ibuprofen, if it was general with a specific I'd take alieve. These days, since LC and wheat-free, I still choose from those three but I don't take anything very often.
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Post by cpresson on Jul 17, 2013 9:34:15 GMT -6
cpressonHow long have you been using the program in that book Chapel? Does the book get your endorsement? Which nsaid are you taking? Ibuprofen or naproxen? I used to take ibuprofen if I didn't take aspirin for pain but I was really impressed with naproxen's pain relief. I did sort of a round robin of the three depending on the pain level and type. If it was general I'd go with aspirin. If it was specific, like the knee I hurt in the army, I'd take ibuprofen, if it was general with a specific I'd take alieve. These days, since LC and wheat-free, I still choose from those three but I don't take anything very often. I've used the program in that book on and off for several years and have found it to be pretty effective. There are two different programs, one for if you are doing it with your own equipment (mostly adjustable dumbbells) and one for if you have access to gym equipment. The program goes up to 6 weeks (I believe) in 2 week increments, adding sets and/or combining exercises for supersets or giant sets. You can basically keep cycling through the program if you continue adding weight to your dumbbells in addition to upping the sets with their program. I typically will do a 2-week plan for four weeks, adding extra weight (2.5 lbs per dumbbell at a time) after the first two weeks. Then after the 4th week, I go to the next program level for 2 weeks, then add extra weight--and so on, cycling through the program. The cool thing about adjustable weight dumbbells is that it is easy (and fairly cheap) to go buy heavier plates, if needed. That book/program (and I would imagine the one for men is equally good) definitely gets my endorsement. Naproxen is my NSAID of choice since I don't have to take much of it. I try to avoid taking those when I can, but when knee swelling is causing enough pain, I'll usually take it to help with both issues. How did you hurt your knee in the Army?
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Post by reddarin on Jul 17, 2013 10:10:33 GMT -6
I've used the program in that book on and off for several years and have found it to be pretty effective. There are two different programs, one for if you are doing it with your own equipment (mostly adjustable dumbbells) and one for if you have access to gym equipment. The program goes up to 6 weeks (I believe) in 2 week increments, adding sets and/or combining exercises for supersets or giant sets. You can basically keep cycling through the program if you continue adding weight to your dumbbells in addition to upping the sets with their program. I typically will do a 2-week plan for four weeks, adding extra weight (2.5 lbs per dumbbell at a time) after the first two weeks. Then after the 4th week, I go to the next program level for 2 weeks, then add extra weight--and so on, cycling through the program. The cool thing about adjustable weight dumbbells is that it is easy (and fairly cheap) to go buy heavier plates, if needed. That book/program (and I would imagine the one for men is equally good) definitely gets my endorsement. Naproxen is my NSAID of choice since I don't have to take much of it. I try to avoid taking those when I can, but when knee swelling is causing enough pain, I'll usually take it to help with both issues. How did you hurt your knee in the Army? Interesting. I like to keep kind of a running mental list of personally endorsed stuff so thank you Naproxen helps with swelling? My old war injury. I was advancing up an enemy machine gun embankment, battling the red scourge of ELMM WB, under heavy fire from the zombie-like acolytes when I tripped over their stupid arguments and banged my knee on the blunt edge of ignorance. Nah, just kidding. Short story: I banged my knee on something. Long story: It was sooooooo dumb the way it happened. We had a meeting after evening formation and there are only so many chairs in our motor pool office so we'd all race to get a chair and the sucker losers had to stand around for the meeting. Well. I won! Hooray! But the chair was at a desk and when I approached the desk at top speed, I slapped my hands down on the top to pivot around the corner of it while turning 180 degrees to gracefully throw myself into one of the coveted seats. But my timing was off and I whacked the living crap out of the side of the sturdy United States Army MIL-SPEC desk with my knee.
OMG! lol it brought tears to my eyes. I limped around for about two weeks before I gave up and went to the medics. They gave me ibuprofen and a chemical heat or ice pad (can't remember) and a profile for no PT. I continued limping for another couple of weeks or so and we deployed for the annual Team Spirit FTX. At the location we were given we had Marine medics handling our first aid. Which was very cool because those guys are all qualified to do some serious medical stuff in the field. So I went on sick call. Man, those guys were awesome! The medic really examined my knee and asked me a lot of questions. I described how it happened and all. He Rx'd some strong ibuprofen and ordered me back to the Yongson hospital for an x-ray. But he said he thought it was just that I'd bruised that cartilage(?) that crisscrosses under the knee cap. He wanted the x-ray just to make sure I hadn't really damaged the knee cap. But there never was any swelling so he just wanted to be thorough. He was right though, the x-ray didn't show any physical damage. Hooray for going to the rear for real food and a shower heh.
Physical damage or no, the knee has bothered me from time to time ever since. It used to be real sensitive to low pressure like rain coming into the area. I don't have that any more since wheat-free but I do still have some pain every now and then in general. And if I put weight on it and turn the wrong way it'll hurt like yes for a while. Even enough to make me limp a bit.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 17, 2013 10:18:41 GMT -6
Oh. I am 47 and that happened in '87 or '88.
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Post by clueless on Jul 17, 2013 10:23:55 GMT -6
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Post by cpresson on Jul 17, 2013 10:24:57 GMT -6
I've used the program in that book on and off for several years and have found it to be pretty effective. There are two different programs, one for if you are doing it with your own equipment (mostly adjustable dumbbells) and one for if you have access to gym equipment. The program goes up to 6 weeks (I believe) in 2 week increments, adding sets and/or combining exercises for supersets or giant sets. You can basically keep cycling through the program if you continue adding weight to your dumbbells in addition to upping the sets with their program. I typically will do a 2-week plan for four weeks, adding extra weight (2.5 lbs per dumbbell at a time) after the first two weeks. Then after the 4th week, I go to the next program level for 2 weeks, then add extra weight--and so on, cycling through the program. The cool thing about adjustable weight dumbbells is that it is easy (and fairly cheap) to go buy heavier plates, if needed. That book/program (and I would imagine the one for men is equally good) definitely gets my endorsement. Naproxen is my NSAID of choice since I don't have to take much of it. I try to avoid taking those when I can, but when knee swelling is causing enough pain, I'll usually take it to help with both issues. How did you hurt your knee in the Army? Interesting. I like to keep kind of a running mental list of personally endorsed stuff so thank you Naproxen helps with swelling? My old war injury. I was advancing up an enemy machine gun embankment, battling the red scourge of ELMM WB, under heavy fire from the zombie-like acolytes when I tripped over their stupid arguments and banged my knee on the blunt edge of ignorance. Nah, just kidding. Short story: I banged my knee on something. Long story: It was sooooooo dumb the way it happened. We had a meeting after evening formation and there are only so many chairs in our motor pool office so we'd all race to get a chair and the sucker losers had to stand around for the meeting. Well. I won! Hooray! But the chair was at a desk and when I approached the desk at top speed, I slapped my hands down on the top to pivot around the corner of it while turning 180 degrees to gracefully throw myself into one of the coveted seats. But my timing was off and I whacked the living crap out of the side of the sturdy United States Army MIL-SPEC desk with my knee.
OMG! lol it brought tears to my eyes. I limped around for about two weeks before I gave up and went to the medics. They gave me ibuprofen and a chemical heat or ice pad (can't remember) and a profile for no PT. I continued limping for another couple of weeks or so and we deployed for the annual Team Spirit FTX. At the location we were given we had Marine medics handling our first aid. Which was very cool because those guys are all qualified to do some serious medical stuff in the field. So I went on sick call. Man, those guys were awesome! The medic really examined my knee and asked me a lot of questions. I described how it happened and all. He Rx'd some strong ibuprofen and ordered me back to the Yongson hospital for an x-ray. But he said he thought it was just that I'd bruised that cartilage(?) that crisscrosses under the knee cap. He wanted the x-ray just to make sure I hadn't really damaged the knee cap. But there never was any swelling so he just wanted to be thorough. He was right though, the x-ray didn't show any physical damage. Hooray for going to the rear for real food and a shower heh.
Physical damage or no, the knee has bothered me from time to time ever since. It used to be real sensitive to low pressure like rain coming into the area. I don't have that any more since wheat-free but I do still have some pain every now and then in general. And if I put weight on it and turn the wrong way it'll hurt like yes for a while. Even enough to make me limp a bit.
Stay tuned on this channel for the further adventures of reddarin, Captain LC, as he battles the mainstream menace and their horde's never ending quest to make us all eat like they do. In our next saga, reddarin recounts how he suffered 2nd degree burns pulling a fellow LC'r out of the path of a mainstream flamethrower emitting a jet of the mainstream is right because it is the mainstream logic. Or it might have happened on KP duty. Wow, that's quite a story. Sucks that they didn't find damage to fix but you're still suffering from it. Something is not right in there. I would be tempted to have an orthopedist (civilian, of course) give it a look and get an MRI if the pain got too bad. An x-ray doesn't show ligament and all cartilage damage like an MRI will. The pain you have with pivoting reminds me of some of what I experienced with a partial ACL tear that didn't show up in an x-ray--only in the MRI. Naproxen helps with swelling because it helps reduce inflammation. Good stuff in moderation
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Post by reddarin on Jul 17, 2013 10:38:05 GMT -6
Wow, that's quite a story. Sucks that they didn't find damage to fix but you're still suffering from it. Something is not right in there. I would be tempted to have an orthopedist (civilian, of course) give it a look and get an MRI if the pain got too bad. An x-ray doesn't show ligament and all cartilage damage like an MRI will. The pain you have with pivoting reminds me of some of what I experienced with a partial ACL tear that didn't show up in an x-ray--only in the MRI. Naproxen helps with swelling because it helps reduce inflammation. Good stuff in moderation Hmmm. If it was a tear or actually damaged, as opposed to simple bruising, wouldn't the pain be a lot less intermittent? I can go for long stretches without it bothering me. Typically, it only bothers me if I step wrong. But you are right, sensitivity for this long does indicate a permanence of some sort of actual damage. After the pain finally went away, with that 800 or 1000 mg dose Rx of ibuprofen, I did PT, which in the Army is a whole lot of running, for the next few years without issue before I exited the service.
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Post by cpresson on Jul 17, 2013 12:21:56 GMT -6
Maybe not if it's a partial tear--but I'm no orthopedist. ACL tears don't always heal, either, because of the lack of blood supply to that area. All I know is that x-rays don't show a whole lot when it comes to cartilage and ligaments in the knees. Bones, sure.
I'm definitely not a fan of Army running, especially what they like to call "fun runs". Running at my own pace is much more fun.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 17, 2013 16:18:20 GMT -6
After careful consideration I decided to not workout today. I am still feeling under the weather and I didn't think a lot of exertion working out would be helpful since I feel fatigued as all get out. I'd been considering working out every third day instead of every other day anyway for a longer rest/repair time period. As long as the fatigue recedes I'll do an intense workout tomorrow and think about continuing every third day or going back to every other day.
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Post by cpresson on Jul 18, 2013 6:33:28 GMT -6
Got some good feedback on my running form last night from another physical therapist (specializes in running) + a good workout. This morning, despite some minor pain in my knee, I got 4 miles in (all but .4 miles running). That wouldn't make the orthopedist happy, but you can't make everyone happy, right? At least I'm icing it now. Normal 30-min physical therapy routine later this evening. Can't wait to see my former hockey coach after work today. An Russian-born Canadian who coached hockey old-school style. I love that guy and his family (his sons are involved in ice hockey at various professional levels; one is a coach for the Ottawa 76's--and they run a hockey camp here in Columbus, OH every summer)
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Post by cpresson on Jul 18, 2013 6:34:03 GMT -6
After careful consideration I decided to not workout today. I am still feeling under the weather and I didn't think a lot of exertion working out would be helpful since I feel fatigued as all get out. I'd been considering working out every third day instead of every other day anyway for a longer rest/repair time period. As long as the fatigue recedes I'll do an intense workout tomorrow and think about continuing every third day or going back to every other day. Hope you're feeling better today, Darrin!
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Post by reddarin on Jul 18, 2013 9:21:35 GMT -6
Thanks Chapel ( cpresson) I still feel out of it I am planning on doing a workout anyway today though. My biggest fear is going too long without working out. I know me and the next thing will be making excuses not to workout and then boom! there'll be no working out. So I am gonna do something even if I can't do it with a lot of intensity. However! I am glad I didn't workout yesterday. I think the extra repair day helped with hypertrophy. I swear my chest seems more defined since my last workout. Saying that might make a BB's eye's bulge in incredulity but I say fie! the biggest motivator is the visual heh.
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Post by cpresson on Jul 18, 2013 9:31:32 GMT -6
FIE!
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Post by smiledarling on Jul 18, 2013 11:06:19 GMT -6
I have shin splints : (
Tuesday's WOD: -400m run -200 double unders -350m row -200m run -100 double unders -750m row -800m run -50 double unders -1250m row
Time: 58:58. Yes, that took me an hour.
The double unders destroyed my shins. I am terrible at them and 200 was a lot. :/
I'm doing the Rebel Race on Saturday. It's a 5k obstacle course.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 18, 2013 12:11:24 GMT -6
Cari what is a double under?
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Post by reddarin on Jul 18, 2013 15:36:59 GMT -6
Workout day! I think I kept the intensity up today. No breaks between rounds other than to take a few sips of water and add reps to my spreadsheet. I do wide arm pushups because I do normal pushups with the burpees. I could tell I was fatigued going into it because I was shaking when I was finished. bleh. Still I am glad I did the workout. Today's routine: curls (4), OTE (4), leg raises (4), wide arm pushups (4), squats (4), crunches (2), burpees (4), calf raises (4), crab dips (4), alternating knee crunches (2). Total time 31:15.
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Post by perfectdeb on Jul 18, 2013 16:46:19 GMT -6
Wow, that's quite a story. Sucks that they didn't find damage to fix but you're still suffering from it. Something is not right in there. I would be tempted to have an orthopedist (civilian, of course) give it a look and get an MRI if the pain got too bad. An x-ray doesn't show ligament and all cartilage damage like an MRI will. The pain you have with pivoting reminds me of some of what I experienced with a partial ACL tear that didn't show up in an x-ray--only in the MRI. Naproxen helps with swelling because it helps reduce inflammation. Good stuff in moderation Hmmm. If it was a tear or actually damaged, as opposed to simple bruising, wouldn't the pain be a lot less intermittent? I can go for long stretches without it bothering me. Typically, it only bothers me if I step wrong. But you are right, sensitivity for this long does indicate a permanence of some sort of actual damage. After the pain finally went away, with that 800 or 1000 mg dose Rx of ibuprofen, I did PT, which in the Army is a whole lot of running, for the next few years without issue before I exited the service. i've got a full lateral meniscus tear and it doesn't hurt all the time either, just if i rotate wrong, i've learned not to pivot on that knee - my treatment of choice is endless ice, ibuprofen and lots of sympathy
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Post by reddarin on Jul 18, 2013 17:29:00 GMT -6
i've got a full lateral meniscus tear and it doesn't hurt all the time either, just if i rotate wrong, i've learned not to pivot on that knee - my treatment of choice is endless ice, ibuprofen and lots of sympathy It can't be operated on or the operation is worse than living with the tear?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 20:45:39 GMT -6
Exercise: Walk HIIT---Changed it up a bit. 30 seconds @ 4.50 mph and 90 seconds at 2.50. Actually was jogging. Holding on for dear life. Sadly, since the knee replacement of last year, I can't run anymore. Scares me as I was always active.
Needing to see the guy who did the surgery. My knee cap has slipped and is resting on the outside of the knee and below. Knee gives out. Also when walking down hills (around house), I am afraid to allow my leg to flex properly for fear of falling. Have done plenty of PT along with EMS for the past 6 months, but nothing helps. More x-rays and results next week. Not a fan of another knee surgery as it is brutal and the recovery is long, but I can't go around for the rest of my life wondering if I'm doing permanent damage to my knee with my HIIT on the treadmill and especially the bike. I can hear and feel the tendon swiping across the implant.
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Post by perfectdeb on Jul 18, 2013 22:18:00 GMT -6
i've got a full lateral meniscus tear and it doesn't hurt all the time either, just if i rotate wrong, i've learned not to pivot on that knee - my treatment of choice is endless ice, ibuprofen and lots of sympathy It can't be operated on or the operation is worse than living with the tear? if they operate the only thing they can really do is take out the damaged section, that would leave me with half thickness and cause all kinds of issues, osteoarthritis being the worst, but in general it would just make it worse - my physiotherapist advised against it, she told me to learn to live with it
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Post by reddarin on Jul 20, 2013 12:05:32 GMT -6
if they operate the only thing they can really do is take out the damaged section, that would leave me with half thickness and cause all kinds of issues, osteoarthritis being the worst, but in general it would just make it worse - my physiotherapist advised against it, she told me to learn to live with it I thought that might be the case. My Dad described that situation to me several years ago about a different problem he had. It was interesting because he was consciously avoiding the surgery in favor of waiting for possible technological improvements in material and techniques.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 20, 2013 12:05:43 GMT -6
Workout day today! Whew!! I really over did it today. You know how when you over do it you alternate between needed to crap and needing to throw up? Yep. It took me a solid 45 minutes to get back to feeling not-weird. All I did to over do it was go slow on each exercise and try to keep form perfect. Slow pushups, slow curls, slow everything. I was watching a Fortess video on youtube yesterday and he pointed out that proper form for a pushup was slowly down, hold, slowly up and immediately start back down. I watched a Mercola video this morning and he, of course, said the same thing. I knew that already but I had gradually started going a little quicker to get more reps. Since I do burpees with a normal pushup I do separate wide arm pushups to focus on my chest. I'm very pleased with my progress in chest appearance Today's routine, exercise (rounds) : burpees(4), crab dips (4), leg raise (3), crunches (2), alternating knee crunches (2), wide arm pushups (4), squats (3), calf raises (2), curls (3), OTE (3). Total time 29:52.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 20, 2013 14:22:13 GMT -6
Here is the Mercola video. It is very thorough and informative
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Post by clueless on Jul 20, 2013 16:01:10 GMT -6
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Post by reddarin on Jul 20, 2013 16:35:53 GMT -6
I thought I was until the end of that workout. I don't think I was at 100% although I felt pretty much normal beforehand. I'm gonna do this type of workout again Monday so we'll see how that goes.
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Post by clueless on Jul 23, 2013 11:11:53 GMT -6
reddarin Were ya able to workout yesterday? Hope you are feeling better.
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Post by reddarin on Jul 23, 2013 11:28:53 GMT -6
reddarin Were ya able to workout yesterday? Hope you are feeling better. No ma'am. I woke up feeling more fatigued than I had for the last several days so I didn't want to exert myself with a workout. I considered doing a light workout but I decided to just see how I felt today instead.
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