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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 12, 2015 11:32:20 GMT -6
The cheese should be fine. I would it eat it if it was mine.
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 12, 2015 12:36:56 GMT -6
From a 'how to store XYZ' website: There are at least a couple of things that can indicate that the cream cheese you got is spoiled. First off, it’s its appearance. If you can find any signs or mold, the product becomes yellowish or greenish, or it gets slimy across the top, those are sure signs of spoilage. If it develops “funny” or “off” odor, throw it aways as well. If it seems to be fine (its appearance and odor are fine), just taste a little. If the taste is fine, it’s nothing to worry. If it’s slightly altered, it’s up to you (if the taste will be good enough for what are you planning to do with the cream cheese). If it’s significantly changed, throw the product away. It does say you really should keep it refrigerated... so I'd be super cautious. Weight loss is good, but not by food poisoning!!!!
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Post by reddarin on Jan 12, 2015 18:13:36 GMT -6
Stumbled Friday night with pizza and beer. But got right back up on Saturday. Glad I didn't allow it to rage wild all weekend. I even did good during the Seahawk game! DH is back and regular schedule is back on. I always do better when I have a usual schedule in life.
I left a sealed block of cream cheese out all day to come to room temp but forgot it and left it out over night (probably 20 hours total). Think it's still good?
Happy Monday! From the forums I read when I googled it the consensus seems to be that it is fine to eat. I thought this post was interesting: www.city-data.com/forum/health-wellness/694829-how-long-can-you-leave-cream-5.html
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Post by reddarin on Jan 12, 2015 18:15:59 GMT -6
Hello everybody!
So... it's been a long time. AND... I've gained back every single pound I lost last year. I have a history of emotional eating and I had quite a few really hard emotional hits. As soon as I 'took a break' I stuffed myself sick (literally and figuratively) for months on end.
But I'm tired of feeling tired and achy and I'm tired of hating what I see in the mirror and pictures. I'm back in therapy and I've joined two (maybe three) weight loss competitions where I have the chance to win up to $700. My ultimate goal (other than to lose weight and feel better) is to show up at the end of May to visit my sister (she's is the one who introduced me to the LCHF way) in New Mexico and shock her with my lighter body... I'm going to keep my efforts a secret from her.
I'm back... and I'm determined. Last year's success shows me I can do this if I maintain healthy habits and if I maintain solid emotional health.
Hope everyone is doing well and had happy holidays!!!
Hi Sarah Welcome back
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 12, 2015 20:22:47 GMT -6
reepicheep1981 So glad to see you again! I think many of us have done the on-again, off-again thing, so you're definitely not alone. I've done it more times than I care to count! Glad you're back!
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 13, 2015 6:47:11 GMT -6
Tuesday! At book club last night I ate a few things I haven't recently: bit of salad (spinach leaves and goat cheese. I skipped the apple.) Roasted veggies and pork loin. Yum. It's what is called a "bodyweight" day for toning--a lot of leg work out which I like. Cardio? Not so much. LATER: Hey! I accomplished three sets of today's thing. (beginner level. I am good with it.) That's so nice to experience tangible evidence of forward movement in ability. I might could have gotten another set in but tomorrow is 50 burpees (which I didn't know what those were until this program). Those are mostly leg strength there so didn't want to go to total muscle failure today. Look at me talking strength training.
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Post by storytha on Jan 13, 2015 11:24:21 GMT -6
Goal one: drink more water. -CHECK (I average 100 oz/day) Goal two: eliminate/severely limit artificial sweeteners. -CHECK (liquid stevia in my one morning coffee and some MIO in water) Goal three: bring home made lunch at least once a week. -Working on it. Did it this week but not last. Part of it is feeling trapped in my office for the whole hour. When spring comes, I may take it to the park or something. Goal four: Stay under 50 freaking grams of carbs! -A work in progress. Goal five: Up the protein to 100g daily. -harder than it looks. Back to buying protein shakes, but the LC ones have sucralose (see goal two).
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 13, 2015 12:19:58 GMT -6
Admission: I posted yesterday feeling like I'd be judged for falling off the wagon. You guys have been SO freaking supportive of me coming back. Thank you for that!
So yesterday was my first day back on low-carb. I KNOW I am DEFINITELY not in Ketosis yet. There's simply no scientific way for that to be the case. (Duh) BUT.... why does my breath taste/smell so bad????? By mid-afternoon it was nearly unbearable. I'm going to use up all my carbs with chewing gum!
Any ideas of why as well as things to change? I'm not eating particularly garlicky things...
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 13, 2015 12:58:33 GMT -6
Hey Sarah, we have all been where you are now--whether for a little or more than a little. Glad you've decided to begin again. We all do....I've read some stuff about bad breath for folks around ketosis but don't remember a thing about it. Maybe Darin will.
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Post by reddarin on Jan 13, 2015 20:22:09 GMT -6
Tuesday! At book club last night I ate a few things I haven't recently: bit of salad (spinach leaves and goat cheese. I skipped the apple.) Roasted veggies and pork loin. Yum. It's what is called a "bodyweight" day for toning--a lot of leg work out which I like. Cardio? Not so much. LATER: Hey! I accomplished three sets of today's thing. (beginner level. I am good with it.) That's so nice to experience tangible evidence of forward movement in ability. I might could have gotten another set in but tomorrow is 50 burpees (which I didn't know what those were until this program). Those are mostly leg strength there so didn't want to go to total muscle failure today. Look at me talking strength training. Don't be fooled, those suckers are full body lol
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Post by reddarin on Jan 13, 2015 20:24:23 GMT -6
Goal one: drink more water. -CHECK (I average 100 oz/day) Goal two: eliminate/severely limit artificial sweeteners. -CHECK (liquid stevia in my one morning coffee and some MIO in water) Goal three: bring home made lunch at least once a week. -Working on it. Did it this week but not last. Part of it is feeling trapped in my office for the whole hour. When spring comes, I may take it to the park or something. Goal four: Stay under 50 freaking grams of carbs! -A work in progress. Goal five: Up the protein to 100g daily. -harder than it looks. Back to buying protein shakes, but the LC ones have sucralose (see goal two). Kathy, I usually would just go out to the car and eat while listening to the radio or read. I'm with you, lunch is as much about taking a break from the office as it is about eating.
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Post by reddarin on Jan 13, 2015 20:52:21 GMT -6
Admission: I posted yesterday feeling like I'd be judged for falling off the wagon. You guys have been SO freaking supportive of me coming back. Thank you for that! So yesterday was my first day back on low-carb. I KNOW I am DEFINITELY not in Ketosis yet. There's simply no scientific way for that to be the case. (Duh) BUT.... why does my breath taste/smell so bad????? By mid-afternoon it was nearly unbearable. I'm going to use up all my carbs with chewing gum! Any ideas of why as well as things to change? I'm not eating particularly garlicky things... It probably is from ketones (the acetone type). From what I've read, most everyone, high carb eaters included, dips into and out of a ketotic state over the course of a 24 hour day. Not being fat adapted means that your body is both over producing ketones and under utilizing them so they are expelled through breath, sweat, eye moisture, etc. The good news is that the exceptionally horrible breath should pass within a couple of days I think. It shouldn't take long for your body to quit over producing ketone bodies and get more efficient at using them while you continue to fat adapt. Probably SF gum or breath mints are the only way to mask it. Or... start telling everyone you are super jazzed about the new Mad Max film and get this mask.
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 14, 2015 6:23:24 GMT -6
Hmmmm, that mask is a very nice shade of pink... Lolol
Thanks for the info, Reddarin! I thought it would normally be an effect of your body going into actual ketosis and knew that couldn't be the case.
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 14, 2015 8:42:31 GMT -6
I've been meaning to mention, but kept forgetting, that there's a weight-tracking app that Phinney and Volek mention in their book. At the time they pritned, apparently the app cost $10. But now it's only 99 cents. It's called Weight Monitor and it's by Essence Computing. It allows you to choose your preferred units (kg, lbs, etc.), enter your goal weight, and enter your weight daily to the nearest one-tenth of a pound. Then it plots a nifty little graph for you with a blue line showing your goal, and a green line showing your actual. I really like it and feel it was definitely worth 99 cents. I could track my weight using MyFitnessPal since I'm already using that to track food, but it only lets you enter your weight to the nearest pound. And since my home scales measure to the nearest tenth pound, I want that information (I know, I'm weird that way!). Plus I like the display of the information much better on Weight Monitor than on MyFitnessPal. These frequent migraines are starting to really get me down, because they're interfering with my workouts, my homeschooling, the work I do for my church, my everything! I bought some OTC progesterone cream, and I'm hoping that will help. If it doesn't, I found out about a doctor at the women's clinic that I already go to, who specializes in menopause and perimenopause, so I will make an appointment with her. I've been reading so much confusing and conflicting information that I don't know what's what. But this article seems pretty good: www.more.com/health/wellness/hormone-hoax-thousands-fall-0 If you don't want to read it all, the gist of it is this: hormone testing is a joke, because the thing about hormones generally and perimenopause and menopause especially, is that your hormones are fluctuating wildly, not only from day to day, but even from hour to hour. So any test that you do is just a snapshot, and is not giving you the bigger picture. I can believe this, because when I took the hormone symptom quiz at Dr. Lee's website, I have many symptoms of BOTH too much estrogen and too little estrogen (at different times)! Their second point is that compounding pharmacies are not as highly regulated as standard pharmaceutical companies, and when they tested their products, the actual dosages varied WIDELY from what they claimed. So that's disappointing news. I'm sure the same is true of this OTC product that I bought, but I'm desperate enough at this point that I'm willing to try it anyway! Have I already mentioned that my sweet hubby ordered me the FitBit Surge for my birthday, and I can't wait to get it? I'm super excited. I love gadgets, and this is the first fitness gadget I've ever seen that does everything I want in one little wristband device (no chest strap!). It not only counts your steps like the original FitBit device(s) but it also has heart rate monitoring and a GPS. It will still be awhile before I get it - it's a brand new product and they haven't even shipped them yet. But I will keep you posted about whether or not it lives up to its promise.
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 14, 2015 8:45:38 GMT -6
Goal one: drink more water. -CHECK (I average 100 oz/day) Goal two: eliminate/severely limit artificial sweeteners. -CHECK (liquid stevia in my one morning coffee and some MIO in water) Goal three: bring home made lunch at least once a week. -Working on it. Did it this week but not last. Part of it is feeling trapped in my office for the whole hour. When spring comes, I may take it to the park or something. Goal four: Stay under 50 freaking grams of carbs! -A work in progress. Goal five: Up the protein to 100g daily. -harder than it looks. Back to buying protein shakes, but the LC ones have sucralose (see goal two). Those sound like good goals to me! Don't forget salt, too. If you're drinking that much water and you're in ketosis, you'll want to make sure you're getting plenty of salt. I learned that lesson the hard way! I'm going to think about my goals for 2015 too. Thanks for sharing this!
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 14, 2015 8:48:56 GMT -6
Tuesday! At book club last night I ate a few things I haven't recently: bit of salad (spinach leaves and goat cheese. I skipped the apple.) Roasted veggies and pork loin. Yum. It's what is called a "bodyweight" day for toning--a lot of leg work out which I like. Cardio? Not so much. LATER: Hey! I accomplished three sets of today's thing. (beginner level. I am good with it.) That's so nice to experience tangible evidence of forward movement in ability. I might could have gotten another set in but tomorrow is 50 burpees (which I didn't know what those were until this program). Those are mostly leg strength there so didn't want to go to total muscle failure today. Look at me talking strength training. Burpees are harder than they look! They really work your core and back a lot too. My daughter used to take taekwondo, and they made the class do burpees during the warm-up. You should have seen that girl's awesome back muscles! Beautiful. I really need to start doing burpees. They're intimidating to me because they're tough. But they're also effective because they're tough!
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 14, 2015 13:19:09 GMT -6
rejoicealways8 You inspired me to add burpees to the bodyweight routine that I was planning to do today. I didn't do all that many (15 total, in three sets of five) but I feel like it made my routine more complete, and definitely more aerobic. And, hey, fifteen is fifteen more than zero! Thanks for the inspiration!
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 14, 2015 17:20:48 GMT -6
Greta, I saw Dr. Lee's site had a cream for sale. I would trust that one. As far as burpees there won't be 50 for me, I am up to 9 and there isn't much jumping involved in it yet. But like you, I am attempting them. Yea!
LATER I didn't eat until 1:30 today. A function of schedule, not an attempt to do anything. I wasn't particularly hungry so was okay. I didn't have the broth I have been trying out this week to see how it works for subduing urges to eat--which i find it does remarkably well. I ate more meat at Mom's but was still thinking I was hungry (brain thing, not a body thing). A bell went on a little bit ago and I thought, hey broth! Mom's got a can of something. So I am sipping on that. It's magic for me.
I had blood drawn for blood work today. It'll be interesting to see what my numbers say since last year. Not that I think them all that important.
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 15, 2015 6:04:37 GMT -6
Oh my! I see what you mean about total body workout on burpees, Darin. I am somewhat surprised about how my back is saying "hey!". Today's a stretching day. Tomorrow a weigh-in. After 10 days or so, the sun is scheduled to appear today. Yea!
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 15, 2015 7:41:18 GMT -6
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 15, 2015 8:20:43 GMT -6
rejoicealways8 I didn't realize that Dr. Lee had his own cream. Thanks for mentioning that! I bought one locally, so I'll give that a try first. But might get his next time. reepicheep1981 Sounds like you're off to a good start! I'm glad that you are feeling so well. The first week can be brutal. Are you sure you're getting enough overal calories? (Not meaning that in a bossy way, just a genuinely curious way. I don't know your situation. I usually eat 1850-2000 per day.)
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Post by gretalyn on Jan 15, 2015 8:27:58 GMT -6
My weight has been creeping up just a bit. I usually bounce around 131-132. But it was up to 133 for several days, at 133.6 today. That's nothing scary or anything, but it's usuallly a signal that something is off. My macronutrient ratios haven't changed. The only thing I can think of that's been different is that I've eaten corn products several times recently. It wasn't much - still stayed within my carb limits for the day each time. I'm generally of the opinion that when it comes to carbs, quantity matters more than quality. But I'm wondering if there are exceptions to that general rule, and corn is one of them! Maybe it's an inflammation and thus water-retention issue? Anyway, I'm going to be avoiding corn and we'll see if that helps.
Oh, and I have not had any more of those painful gut bloating issues since I want back to being STRICTLY gluten-free. So even though the timing of the food and the pain didn't seem like they were necessarily correlated, I'm thinking that they were.
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 15, 2015 8:38:30 GMT -6
I wonder the same thing Sarah about the amount of calories. I am 5'4" and my target weight calories are 1800 cal. If I eat to that (I have 15-20 pounds to lose) that is low enough. It's easy to think the fewer calories the better all together and that isn't so. Too few and our bodies will hold onto everything.
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 15, 2015 10:16:14 GMT -6
Rejoicealways8 & gretalyn - I am not positive it is enough, nor am I positive I have my protein/fat ratios quite right either. As to calories - I'll adjust if I don't see some progress, for sure. I'm always happy to eat more!!! LOL What I did find last time is that the 1600 - 1800 range was too many calories for me - no loss at all and at 1300 - 1400 calories I was only losing about a pound a week. I have roughly 55 pounds to lose and from all other folk's LCHF experience, it seemed to come off far more quickly than only a pound a week. (Not that I'm complaining about any loss at all!) So this time I thought I'd try a bit lower and see if that helps. I don't feel hungry in the least... do you think if my calories were too low I would? I'm definitely open to altering it if necessary.
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Post by reepicheep1981 on Jan 15, 2015 10:18:04 GMT -6
Ooooh... I do have a question though, about the time of day I eat the most fat. I'm finding I need to catch up on my fat goal and do that by drinking some HWC with my dinner. Has anyone found if it is more effective to fat-load earlier in the day? Or does it not matter a great deal at all? Thanks everyone for your help... I really appreciate it.
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Post by rejoicealways8 on Jan 15, 2015 15:23:21 GMT -6
Not everyone loses quickly on LCHF including me....as far as timing on the fat goal I don't have a clue. Speaking to losing, you could consider doing a brief experiment--say a week?--without dairy to see what happens as far as weight loss. For some people dairy is a hindrance to weight loss. I haven't seen that it is a hindrance to my own weight loss but I do know that it acts as a trigger food of sorts in that if I have some a sort of hunger wakes up in my head which calls for me to eat more of it. Some people do better (weight loss) without eggs. There are all kinds of things to fiddle with that has nothing to do with counting calories.
Do you know the amount of protein grams needed per day to support your lean muscle mass at the weight you want to be? That's the number to start with really. Read the first post Darin always starts a thread with. Once you have the protein number you can make other decisions. I always reread that post every time to remind myself what I am doing.
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Post by reddarin on Jan 15, 2015 15:48:25 GMT -6
My weight has been creeping up just a bit. I usually bounce around 131-132. But it was up to 133 for several days, at 133.6 today. That's nothing scary or anything, but it's usuallly a signal that something is off. My macronutrient ratios haven't changed. The only thing I can think of that's been different is that I've eaten corn products several times recently. It wasn't much - still stayed within my carb limits for the day each time. I'm generally of the opinion that when it comes to carbs, quantity matters more than quality. But I'm wondering if there are exceptions to that general rule, and corn is one of them! Maybe it's an inflammation and thus water-retention issue? Anyway, I'm going to be avoiding corn and we'll see if that helps. Oh, and I have not had any more of those painful gut bloating issues since I want back to being STRICTLY gluten-free. So even though the timing of the food and the pain didn't seem like they were necessarily correlated, I'm thinking that they were. "quantity matters more than quality." I agree with this completely with one caveat - how were the carbs prepared and/or what ingredients accompany them? For example, corn chips are typically cooked in low quality high inflammation veggie oil. An ancillary caveat is highly processed fructose carbs. Could the slight tick up in weight be from the increased frequency of the migraines Greta?
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Post by reddarin on Jan 15, 2015 17:02:50 GMT -6
Rejoicealways8 & gretalyn - I am not positive it is enough, nor am I positive I have my protein/fat ratios quite right either. As to calories - I'll adjust if I don't see some progress, for sure. I'm always happy to eat more!!! LOL What I did find last time is that the 1600 - 1800 range was too many calories for me - no loss at all and at 1300 - 1400 calories I was only losing about a pound a week. I have roughly 55 pounds to lose and from all other folk's LCHF experience, it seemed to come off far more quickly than only a pound a week. (Not that I'm complaining about any loss at all!) So this time I thought I'd try a bit lower and see if that helps. I don't feel hungry in the least... do you think if my calories were too low I would? I'm definitely open to altering it if necessary. The ideal, I think, is to eat as much as you can while still being able to lose weight. Approaching it from this direction avoids some nasty pitfalls like thyroid down regulation caused by too much of a calorie deficit. There is also the mental aspect - I think too few calories create situations where you fall off the wagon. Even if you don't feel particularly like you are starving yourself at some point your body may lodge a complaint and you'll be face down in a plate of carbs wondering what the heck came over you. "I don't feel hungry in the least... do you think if my calories were too low I would?" Probably not. LC appetite suppression is an amazing thing but it happens within its own small niche of the overall metabolism. Consider how being ill will sometimes suppress appetite. Unless you are very sick you will eat something not because you are hungry but because you know you need to keep your strength up and going without eating is not healthy.
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Post by reddarin on Jan 15, 2015 17:45:45 GMT -6
Ooooh... I do have a question though, about the time of day I eat the most fat. I'm finding I need to catch up on my fat goal and do that by drinking some HWC with my dinner. Has anyone found if it is more effective to fat-load earlier in the day? Or does it not matter a great deal at all? Thanks everyone for your help... I really appreciate it. I imagine everyone will have a different take on that Sarah. I'd try it both ways and any way in between to find what works best. I lost most of my weight eating three meals a day. Then I had good results having HWC/CO/Coffee in the morning and IF'ng the rest of the day eating ~2000 calories for supper. Before I did IF I sometimes had a hard time hitting macro/calorie goals if I went all day without eating. Let's face it, a 2000 calorie meal is a big meal lol.
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Post by reddarin on Jan 15, 2015 17:47:10 GMT -6
Oh my! I see what you mean about total body workout on burpees, Darin. I am somewhat surprised about how my back is saying "hey!". Today's a stretching day. Tomorrow a weigh-in. After 10 days or so, the sun is scheduled to appear today. Yea! Right?!? lol they are murder
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