|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2014 3:56:06 GMT -6
The following post was made by reddarin in May 2014, I only changed the month. Thanks Darin for a great introduction.
Welcome to the June Nutritional Ketosis thread!
What exactly is NK? The concise description is here: link.
Your goal is a low total carb, high fat and moderate daily protein regimen resulting in a state of Nutritional Ketosis. Total carbs are 50g or less. In short: Eat your required protein grams, keep total carbs at or under 50g and the rest of your calories are fat.
Keep your calorie deficit moderate to lose weight. Tweak to individualize the plan. The fundamental shift to fat for fuel, nutritional ketosis, takes two to four weeks and sometimes longer - even much longer - you didn't get overweight overnight you won't enter a state of NK overnight either so be patient. The health benefits of eating LC are generally realized within days.
The following section describes how you create your beginning macros.
Protein
In the book, Drs. Phinney and Volek recommend 1.5-2.0g/kg reference weight for protein grams. Dr. Phinney also covered that in the Long Term Stalls podcast. Interestingly, in a Fat Burning Man podcast, at 16:53, Jimmy Moore mentioned to Abel James that Dr. Phinney leaned more towards 1.0-1.5 grams per kg of reference weight.
Reference weight is the appropriate weight for your height as described in a height/weight chart. Although it doesn't need to be exact, it is important to use the weight that is closest to correct for you with the formula because overeating protein can interfere with weight loss - (from gluconeogenesis or not). So use the right weight even if you have a higher intermediate goal weight. You can check your frame size for a better estimation of the right reference weight for yourself. Frame size is described here.
Divide pounds by 2.2 to get kg so the concise formula looks like this: (reference_weight/2.2)*1.5 = daily protein grams.
For example: Your ideal weight is 150 pounds...
(150lbs/2.2)*1.5 = 102g protein a day.
Protein II
Use the 1.5-2.0g/kg from the published book as your start point. It is much easier to start at the high end and tweak down if needed than the reverse. If you are coming from a very low calorie plan you probably need the extra protein to rebuild lost muscle mass anyway.
Fat
Most of your calories should come from fat.
Carbs
50g total carbs (not net) or less.
Calories
According to Dr. Phinney, an obese person burns about 30kCal per kg of weight and a moderately active adult close to their correct weight burns 35kCal per kg of weight. He attributes the difference, 30 to 35, to an obese person being more sedentary than a person at the right weight for their body.
From page 207 of The Art and Science of Low Carb Living:
"As an aside, the casual reader might protest that these energy expenditure numbers look pretty high. But for anyone that has worked with obese humans in a metabolic research ward, 30kcal per kg of actual body weight in the sedentary obese and 35 kcal/kg in the post-obese moderately active adult are actually quite conservative expenditure values."
For example: You are fat, your goal weight is 150 and right now you weigh 225.
225lb current calorie expenditure --> (225/2.2)*30 = 3068
150lb goal weight calorie expenditure --> (150/2.2)*35 = 2386
Calories II
How much should you eat? I don't know but it is probably not as little as you think. As you can see from Dr. Phinney's clinical experience, you don't need to starve yourself to lose weight. An obese person that is burning ~3,000 calories a day can lose weight eating 1800 to 2000 calories a day unless there are health issues that come into play - thyroid, adrenals, et. al.
There are many health risks related to eating very low calories, like loss of lean body mass and metabolism down regulation, and it is hard to stick to a plan with very low calories. Very low calorie plans frequently result in binges which will wreck your efforts at NK. Start high and work down as needed but go down slowly. Panic is the enemy of success.
Macros
Macro ratios are a great tool to help you keep an eye on what you are doing but they can be very deceptive. 15% protein at 1500 calories is very different from 15% at 3000 calories. You can have great looking macros that are hiding terrible real numbers. Don't get stuck on macro percentages. Always check your protein grams to make sure you are eating to your goal.
Exercise
You do not need to exercise to lose weight. Period. Exercise is a poor tool for weight loss. What you eat is far, far more important for weight loss (and maintenance). Exercise for health. Get that straight in your mind. If you are exercising it is not for weight loss it is for health. Say it out loud. Write it down. Put a note on the fridge. If you have much to lose, consider putting off exercise entirely at least until you are well acquainted with how you are eating.
The belief that exercise is the magical key for weight loss/maintenance is so ingrained into our thinking after decades of propaganda from the Exercise Mafia, it is practically impossible to get people to rethink this shoddy paradigm.
Really. The AHA and the ACSM admitted it in their report under the Obesity, Gaining, and Losing Weight heading:
Physical Activity and Public Health: Updated Recommendation for Adults From the American College of Sports Medicine and the American Heart Association.
It is reasonable to assume that persons with relatively high daily energy expenditures would be less likely to gain weight over time, compared with those who have low energy expenditures. So far, data to support this hypothesis are not particularly compelling (57)
Even they don't believe themselves because they go on to recommend exercise for weight control. Whew. *That* is some kinda brainwashing right there.
Aside from the facts, which won't dissuade 99.99% of everyone, exercise has a risk factor that is never mentioned by its champions. Getting yourself injured is not going to help you lose weight. Not because of decreased activity which has nothing to do with weight loss in the first place, but from the systemic inflammation that injury brings about, stuck in the hospital where they are not going to let you do LC, losing control of what you eat because you have to rely on family or friends for food, etc. If you are going to exercise, do it right. Avoid exercise fads and high risk questionable techniques. If someone wants you to get on a medicine ball to do a barbell squat - run away. Stick to the basics and stay safe. Don't be an idiot because there are a gym full of idiots grinning at you and encouraging you to be one with them.
Okay, so you have decided to throw science to the wind and exercise anyway. I knew you would. What exercise should you do? What exercise can impact weight loss indirectly?
Proper strength training. Cardio is not a fat burner. Remember the note you taped to your fridge.
Dr. Doug McGuff M.D. wrote Body By Science. I doubt you will find a better program for strength training that fits NK so completely. If you have access to a gym you can do his exact regimen as long as they have the right machines. If you do not have access to the gym, the book gives a barbell version of the Big 5 you can do at home. You can also follow his regimen by substituting bodyweight exercises that fit the Big 5 categories he describes. Drew Baye has a demo video for the UXS product but it is full of excellent general information for doing a HIT bodyweight regimen. Typically correctly implemented HIT programs take half an hour to one hour a week.
Along with McGuff, Bill DeSimone has spent years studying the mechanical function of the body. He describes how to do training safely with minimal risk of injury and how to avoid stresses that create injuries, days, weeks, months or years in the future. You should read/listen/view what DeSimone has to say no matter what type of exercise you do.
Daily/Weekly Weigh-Ins
Do you weigh in daily or weekly? Totally up to you! I weigh in daily because I like the constant feedback. *BUT*, if you choose to do daily weigh-ins you have to accept that daily weights are a snapshot in time only. They are interesting data points but that is all and they are meaningless without the context of time. In other words, weigh-in daily if you want but pay attention to the trend not the individual snapshot of weight.
Tape Measure
You should measure yourself periodically. Knowing that you are losing inches can help keep you from wildly tweaking what you are doing when what you are doing is working even if the scale is saying otherwise. And it feels good to know you have lost inches.
A Lot To Lose
Consider this when you have a lot to lose.
Sodium
Consider your own health condition and any Rx meds but... low carb is not a low sodium way of eating or living. You must get your sodium in or your body will suffer. It might suffer silently for a long time before it finally breaks. Or it might express itself as agonizing leg cramps. Those cramps are caused by dehydration and/or a potassium deficiency but if you are a low sodium consumer then your sodium deficiency is contributing to your potassium loss and dehydration. The body excretes potassium if it is forced to conserve sodium because you are not getting enough. That is how important sodium is to your body. Phinney advises 5 Grams of sodium daily. That is a lot of sodium. Fear not! Unless you are going out of your way to eat low sodium you are probably getting 2 to 4 grams in your food every day. A little extra use of the salt shaker will fix up most people just fine. It is worth taking a
look at
how much sodium you are getting if you use a food logger. Table salt is not one for one on sodium grams. If you've been a casual low sodium person then you should pay careful attention to what you are eating and dun your former salt eschewing ways.
The body will cannabalize LBM for potassium if it has to. So, low sodium -> sacrifice potassium -> rob lean tissue for potassium -> poor LC results.
Previous Threads
NK - April 2014 Version
NK - March 2014 Version
NK - February 2014 Version
NK - January 2014 Version
NK - December 2013 Version
NK - November 2013 Version
NK - October 2013 Version
NK - September 2013 Version
NK - August 2013 Version
NK - July 2013 Version
NK - June 2013 Version
NK - May 2013 Version
Notes
Join in the conversation any time. Feel free to ask any questions you have. We are all happy to help you. Lurkers are welcome too.
Read more: nkevolution.freeforums.net/thread/167/nk-2014-version?page=1#ixzz33f9CcYFt
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2014 4:08:46 GMT -6
@bunniee I took 3 DLPA yesterday, 1500 mg. I usually only take 1 or 2. I swear I turned in to Mary Poppins. Me and the kids always have fun but Yesterday we went out and sat in the middle of the garden and dug in the dirt, then when we watered the strawberries I just soaked them all with the hose and they all giggled and squealed. Then we baked cookies and made a dirt box in our play yard. I filled buckets with dirt and they were to heavy for the kids to carry so they put the buckets in their little cars and rolled them around. Man I had fun and laughed at them all day. My shoulder feels better too. Thanks Lisa.  |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 5:34:19 GMT -6
Thanks for putting up the new thread, clueless! I'm glad the DLPA is helping you, I guess I need to pick up a bottle. I usually order supplements from Swanson Vitamins or Vitacost, but had just placed an order last weekend. I'll be trying out a new supplement when the package gets here. L-theanine is an amino acid that is supposed to induce relaxation and relieve stress without making you drowsy. L-theanine reduces stress |
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610 
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 4, 2014 7:20:38 GMT -6
Thanks for starting the new thread, Cheryl!
On Sunday afternoon, my husband and daughter and myself went to Sonic for a treat. They got ice cream, and I got a diet limeade. Well, one of my paranoid irrational fears turned out to be real and rational. I ordered diet, but got regular. When I tasted it, it seemed *really* sweet like it might be real sugar. But I don't drink sodas and such very often, so they ALWAYS taste that way to me! I checked the receipt and it did say "diet", and I always have this fear every time I order a soda, so I told myself I was being crazy (again) and I drank it. For a little while after I drank it I had this "giddy" feeling and I knew that was weird. Then about an hour later, I had a sudden blood sugar crash. Yeah, definitely NOT diet. And when I'm crashing like that, I have to eat something carby to get my blood sugar back up quick (no choice, fat won't do it). So it basically ruined my diet for the whole day. And it's not the first time that this particular Sonic has messed up my order, either, so I think I'm just going to have to stop going there. It's very disappointing because they have this delicious mango flavoring that's made with Splenda which they can put in your iced tea. But half the time, they put it in the sugar-sweetened tea instead of the plain unsweetened tea like I request. Good heavens, even if I didn't have reactive hypoglycemia, why would I want you to add MORE sweetener to already sweetened tea?!? That one I can always detect by taste, because it's so super-sweet that it's gag-inducing.
Anyway, rant over.
Monday and yesterday, my diet was great: 26c/112p/140f and 29c/85p/149f respectively.
On Monday morning, I went on a longer-than-usual run. My usual one is 0.4 miles warmup, 1.75 miles run, 0.4 miles cool down. This time I did 2.75 instead of 1.75. It was really hot, and I had to take it very slow because my heart rate was pretty high. Oh, I should probably note, I call it a "run" but what I'm actually doing is alternating running and walking to keep my heart rate in the right training zone. So some days I run more than others. It just depends on how my body is handling it (and whether I'm going uphill or down!).
I didn't exercise yesterday. No excuse.
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2014 9:36:52 GMT -6
Thanks for starting the new thread, Cheryl! On Sunday afternoon, my husband and daughter and myself went to Sonic for a treat. They got ice cream, and I got a diet limeade. Well, one of my paranoid irrational fears turned out to be real and rational. I ordered diet, but got regular. When I tasted it, it seemed *really* sweet like it might be real sugar. But I don't drink sodas and such very often, so they ALWAYS taste that way to me! I checked the receipt and it did say "diet", and I always have this fear every time I order a soda, so I told myself I was being crazy (again) and I drank it. For a little while after I drank it I had this "giddy" feeling and I knew that was weird. Then about an hour later, I had a sudden blood sugar crash. Yeah, definitely NOT diet. And when I'm crashing like that, I have to eat something carby to get my blood sugar back up quick (no choice, fat won't do it). So it basically ruined my diet for the whole day. And it's not the first time that this particular Sonic has messed up my order, either, so I think I'm just going to have to stop going there. It's very disappointing because they have this delicious mango flavoring that's made with Splenda which they can put in your iced tea. But half the time, they put it in the sugar-sweetened tea instead of the plain unsweetened tea like I request. Good heavens, even if I didn't have reactive hypoglycemia, why would I want you to add MORE sweetener to already sweetened tea?!? That one I can always detect by taste, because it's so super-sweet that it's gag-inducing. Anyway, rant over. Monday and yesterday, my diet was great: 26c/112p/140f and 29c/85p/149f respectively. On Monday morning, I went on a longer-than-usual run. My usual one is 0.4 miles warmup, 1.75 miles run, 0.4 miles cool down. This time I did 2.75 instead of 1.75. It was really hot, and I had to take it very slow because my heart rate was pretty high. Oh, I should probably note, I call it a "run" but what I'm actually doing is alternating running and walking to keep my heart rate in the right training zone. So some days I run more than others. It just depends on how my body is handling it (and whether I'm going uphill or down!). I didn't exercise yesterday. No excuse. OMG Greta that is despicable. What if they do that to diabetics. You should call and tell them. That is horrible. So sorry that happened. That is really inexcusable! |
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 4, 2014 9:39:08 GMT -6
@bunniee I cannot believe how much better my shoulder feels today! I took 1500 mg this am and the pain is 85% better than it has been in 2 weeks. Thank you, thank YOU!
|
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 4, 2014 10:01:33 GMT -6
What if they do that to diabetics. You should call and tell them. Yeah, that's a good point. |
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 4, 2014 11:25:58 GMT -6
Yes, Greta, whether you ever go there or not again you could help others by letting it be known that this has happened more than once to you. Cheryl, thanks for starting the new thread. Now I want to try that DLPA to see if I get the energizer bunny reaction Cheryl did.  |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:16:24 GMT -6
I went to the vitamin store tonight and got more DLPA. The capsules are 500 mg each and I'm going to try taking 1000 mg in the morning, plus another 500 mg in the afternoon. I'm tempted to take one now but it might keep me awake. The rest of my supplements are supposed to be delivered tomorrow. |
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 5, 2014 8:00:23 GMT -6
Yesterday: I went for a run with my daughter, and my macros were 40c/93p/156f
Not much else to report. Hope that everyone has a lovely day!
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 16:15:54 GMT -6
I took 2 500-mg capsules of DLPA this morning. I didn't experience a burst of energy like some people, but do feel like I was in a better mood. I took another capsule around noon along with kava. I'm dealing with PMS right now and my eating has not been too good the last few days. All I've had today is coffee and a protein bar, and I'll probably have eggs for dinner. |
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 6, 2014 8:18:51 GMT -6
I had enough mindset to go outside to brave the mosquitoes and pull weeds for a few minutes. Yea me! The teenager who is mowing my yard this summer will start that tomorrow. Oh I have lots of place to pull weeds no matter what the height of the grass is. My longterm plan is not to have any grass to mow. I like gardening but not grass/mowing. I encroach on that grass areas a little more every year. One year money and/or energy will cause me to do it/have it done all at once. That would be lovely. And a drip irrigation system, too. That won't be this year but I'll make a little headway.
|
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 7, 2014 7:57:07 GMT -6
Well SOMEBODY's gotta post. It might as well be me.  After my lovely 129 the other day, the scale says stuff in the low 130s again. Happens. When I can hit a 12x more often in a week, then I am on the way down. Spent a little bit of time pulling weeds yesterday and am about to head out there again before the combo of heat and humidity does in my determination. Currently, those number of minutes are not all that high but it will improve as I go along. I don't have a plan about food today. I will make one. Ha! Anyone be watching the Belmont Stakes this afternoon besides me? |
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 7, 2014 9:52:59 GMT -6
sheesh. I am having an allergy attack. That medicine was awesome for stopping these attacks. BOOHOO! Sneezing my head off and my eyes are swollen.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 10:01:17 GMT -6
Yesterday was not a good day and that's all I'm going to say about that. I had coffee with my amino acid supplements this morning, then went back to bed and napped until 10 am.  I've added l-theanine to my arsenal of supplements. It's supposed to promote relaxation without making you drowsy. I took my first dose of theanine a couple hours after dinner last night, and it did seem to make me more relaxed. Theanine taken with caffeine can boost alertness and focus, while reducing negative effects of caffeine like jitteriness. L-theanine can also be used with melatonin to encourage sleep. I poached a chicken breast this morning and made chicken salad for an early lunch. I've been eating more chicken lately because it's harder to stay away from cheese if I eat beef, especially ground beef. I don't feel much different without dairy in my diet but will continue the experiment for at least another week. |
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 7, 2014 12:09:16 GMT -6
Good for you for continuing your experimentation, Bunnliee. You might find the scale moves in a pleasing manner without dairy even though you don't feel any different. Glad you're feeling better as far as sleep and such.
Cheryl, ACK!
|
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 7, 2014 13:51:30 GMT -6
Cheryl, so sorry about your allergies. And bunniee, so sorry about your bad day yesterday. I hope that things improve soon for both of you.
My average weight this week was 133.8, which was a 1.5-pound drop from last week. So that was nice.
I exercised four days this week, so I fell short of my goal of six days. But I met my goal of keeping my carbs under 50 every day.
Pam, I won't be watching the Belmont Stakes because we only get like two tv channels, but enjoy! I hear there's quite a lot of excitement about it this year.
|
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 7, 2014 13:54:42 GMT -6
I just reread my post and realized that I really need to come up with some better goals! I mean, the things I listed aren't really goals at all, they're plans. A goal should be something like "to be able to do five pull-ups" and then you come up with an appropriate plan for how to get there such as "resistance training three times a week." A goal is "to be able to run a 5K" and the plan is "two short runs and one longer run each week" or whatever. So I need to think about that and come up with some realistic goals for myself.
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 8, 2014 5:43:07 GMT -6
Well, IDK what to do. Yesterday was the worst attack ever. My whole body hurts today from sneezing. My eyes are swollen, my nose is red and swollen, my head is throbbing. I took mega doses of vitamin c 15gms. The vitamin c did slow down the sneezing some. But caused my stomach to bloat. I never got diarrhea from it. From what I read you were supposed to take a huge dose to tolerance.
I finally took generic Claritin and 3 doses of Benadryl by the end of the day. I had to take Benadryl today too.
I almost gave in and took the chlor tabs. I didn't have one of these attacks while on chlor tabs. I am so frustrated and upset.
I would take the chlor tabs only in emergency BUT every day I start out sneezing with a runny nose and I never know when it gonna be an all out attack. Taking the Chlor tabs wound up to be something I had to take daily. I have been trying to get it out of my system for the last 2 or 3 weeks.
And the attacks happen all times of the year, not just spring / summer allergies.
Have debilitating allergies attacks that turn into weeks long sinus infections? Or take the meds and be fat, arthritic and screw up my thyroid.?
Guess I will try ordering yet another supply of supplements to see if I can find something that helps.
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 8, 2014 5:48:29 GMT -6
Cheryl, so sorry about your allergies. And bunniee, so sorry about your bad day yesterday. I hope that things improve soon for both of you. My average weight this week was 133.8, which was a 1.5-pound drop from last week. So that was nice. I exercised four days this week, so I fell short of my goal of six days. But I met my goal of keeping my carbs under 50 every day. Pam, I won't be watching the Belmont Stakes because we only get like two tv channels, but enjoy! I hear there's quite a lot of excitement about it this year. 133 is great Greta!  |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 8:12:10 GMT -6
Well, IDK what to do. Yesterday was the worst attack ever. My whole body hurts today from sneezing. My eyes are swollen, my nose is red and swollen, my head is throbbing. I took mega doses of vitamin c 15gms. The vitamin c did slow down the sneezing some. But caused my stomach to bloat. I never got diarrhea from it. From what I read you were supposed to take a huge dose to tolerance. I finally took generic Claritin and 3 doses of Benadryl by the end of the day. I had to take Benadryl today too. I almost gave in and took the chlor tabs. I didn't have one of these attacks while on chlor tabs. I am so frustrated and upset. I would take the chlor tabs only in emergency BUT every day I start out sneezing with a runny nose and I never know when it gonna be an all out attack. Taking the Chlor tabs wound up to be something I had to take daily. I have been trying to get it out of my system for the last 2 or 3 weeks. And the attacks happen all times of the year, not just spring / summer allergies. Have debilitating allergies attacks that turn into weeks long sinus infections? Or take the meds and be fat, arthritic and screw up my thyroid.? Guess I will try ordering yet another supply of supplements to see if I can find something that helps.  Man that sounds just awful. Have you ever tried Nasalcrom spray? It's more of a preventive drug but could help in the long run. I used the spray years ago and it did seem to help. It might be worth going to the doctor, or maybe call the office and ask to talk with a nurse about your severe allergy symptoms. |
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 8, 2014 13:32:22 GMT -6
Cheryl, have you ever tried seeing an allergist for testing and shots? If mine were as severe as what you're describing that's what I would do (I think I've tried everything else!)
|
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 8, 2014 20:55:16 GMT -6
You use a neti pot Cheryl?
|
|
gretalyn
State
Posts: 610
Joined: May 2013
Stats: 148/132/132
Plan:
|
Post by gretalyn on Jun 9, 2014 6:34:39 GMT -6
|
|
rejoicealways8
State
Posts: 712
Joined: December 2013
Location: UnderTheBigBlueTexasSky
Stats: 151/129/115
Plan: Carnivory
|
Post by rejoicealways8 on Jun 9, 2014 7:05:31 GMT -6
It's worth trying. I didn't look at the link but I think you've got to do it regularly to get consistent relief.
Joined Daily Burn for a 30 day free trial to get my interest up for moving my body. Started yesterday.
|
|
storytha
State
289.6/____/150
Posts: 545
Joined: October 2013
|
Post by storytha on Jun 9, 2014 9:36:43 GMT -6
Sorry to Cheryl for your allergy problems! DS going through a small bout of allergies too. So something is out there. I hope you can find a medication that helps you on all fronts.
Sorry I've been absent. I have been reading the posts, just not motivated myself. But I am purchasing plane tickets to Chicago today and I'm determined to be in better physical condition before September so I can enjoy my flight and activities once I get there. So I am sitting here with my coffee w/ HWC & CO and definite plans for NK lunch and dinner. I'm sure I will drop lots of "water weight" by Friday. The trick is to not fall off the wagon come Saturday. I hope to grill up a bunch of chicken tenderloin and have it chopped and in the fridge to grab and eat instead of the sour cream and onion chips sitting on the counter.
I've been seriously debating going on HCG for the 3 week run, but decided that $255 could be wasted if I can't stick to my NK WOE-what makes me think I can stick to a 500 calorie diet? I'm not saying no (After research I do think it would help me with my belly fat) but I want to prove to myself I have the willpower to eat the foods that make me feel good and not fall off the wagon every two weeks.
Personal news: everyone is doing fine. School gets out Thursday but don't really have much plans for the kids. They can lounge around and complain about how bored they are.
Saturday we drove 3 1/2 hours one way to eat lunch in Portland at a science fiction café. Kinda seedy but was interesting. Hung around town for about another hour then drove home. I best part of it was that it was DH's idea. He almost never does spontaneous things like this.
My shoulder, knees, ankles, and hips hurt. Just plain hurt. I know I'm at my heaviest ever now, but it's not just that. That wheat really does a number on my joints (and gut). Blah!
Hope you all have a wonderful Monday.
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 9, 2014 12:04:23 GMT -6
Thanks everyone. I am much better today!
I have tried a neti pot (still use it), Flonase, nasalcrom, zyrtec, Claritin, Benadryl, allevert and a few others. Chlortabs worked the best. I am inclined to think on days like Saturday it is more of an autoimmune response. Like my body just dumps histamine and it is crazy. I only started having episodes like that my hyperthyroidism so I think it is autoimmune.
Seems like a lot of the allergy meds have side effects. zyrtec causes weight gain too, butterbur is an herb that works like zyrtec, one side effect of it is stimulated appetite. LOL I guess allergies and fatness go hand in hand. I actually starting reading all sorts of stuff about allergies and found a few people that said eft helped. Ya know that tapping stuff that has been around forever. I tried it early yesterday morning and started feeling better. I Did it again today and haven't had an problems. Got nothing to lose that is for sure. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 16:33:05 GMT -6
My stomach is kind of upset, so I haven't eaten much today. The battery in my car died sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning, and I ended up having to replace it. The battery was over 3 years old so it was about due. I'm just glad it wasn't something more expensive like the alternator, but it was a hassle running around in the rain to get it replaced. Cheryl, I'm glad your allergies are a little better now. storytha - I haven't tried HCG, but wanting to postpone trying it out until you are back on track seems like a good idea. Maybe see how things go for the rest of June, and wait until July to start the HCG. |
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 10, 2014 4:35:49 GMT -6
Sorry about your battery @bunniee. Glad you got it fixed up.
|
|
|
|
Post by clueless on Jun 10, 2014 4:38:54 GMT -6
Sorry to Cheryl for your allergy problems! DS going through a small bout of allergies too. So something is out there. I hope you can find a medication that helps you on all fronts. Sorry I've been absent. I have been reading the posts, just not motivated myself. But I am purchasing plane tickets to Chicago today and I'm determined to be in better physical condition before September so I can enjoy my flight and activities once I get there. So I am sitting here with my coffee w/ HWC & CO and definite plans for NK lunch and dinner. I'm sure I will drop lots of "water weight" by Friday. The trick is to not fall off the wagon come Saturday. I hope to grill up a bunch of chicken tenderloin and have it chopped and in the fridge to grab and eat instead of the sour cream and onion chips sitting on the counter. I've been seriously debating going on HCG for the 3 week run, but decided that $255 could be wasted if I can't stick to my NK WOE-what makes me think I can stick to a 500 calorie diet? I'm not saying no (After research I do think it would help me with my belly fat) but I want to prove to myself I have the willpower to eat the foods that make me feel good and not fall off the wagon every two weeks. Personal news: everyone is doing fine. School gets out Thursday but don't really have much plans for the kids. They can lounge around and complain about how bored they are. Saturday we drove 3 1/2 hours one way to eat lunch in Portland at a science fiction café. Kinda seedy but was interesting. Hung around town for about another hour then drove home. I best part of it was that it was DH's idea. He almost never does spontaneous things like this. My shoulder, knees, ankles, and hips hurt. Just plain hurt. I know I'm at my heaviest ever now, but it's not just that. That wheat really does a number on my joints (and gut). Blah! Hope you all have a wonderful Monday. :hugs:Boy is just gets right down disgusting sometimes. I get so tired of it all. Especially when my whole body is hurting like that. Feel better. So glad you checked in. |
|
Man that sounds just awful. Have you ever tried Nasalcrom spray? It's more of a preventive drug but could help in the long run. I used the spray years ago and it did seem to help. 
